What cheap capture devices are YOU using?

Yang Wen · September 9th, 2003, 09:58 PM

Yes, is this problem limited to Vegas? I don't plan on using Vegas for any projects anyways.

Ozzie Leon · September 17th, 2003, 11:57 AM

Once I've captured to my ag-dvx I then dump it using sony dsr-11. I have not had any problems doing so.

Nick Medrano · September 29th, 2003, 08:57 PM

Anyone know if the PV-DV53 Panasonic MiniDV camcorder will work okay as a capture/playback device for my DVX100?

Here's the URL: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=276525&is=REG

Thank you. Concerned about it possibly incorrectly capturing the footage as 60i as someone said earlier in this thread (JVC).

Darrell Hinton · September 29th, 2003, 09:09 PM

I asked this same question earlier in this thread. I was thinking about getting it because it was the cheapest MiniDV cam I could find. Another member replied and said that he had bought the DV53 to use for capture and that it worked but that the camera only had mono audio output. I noticed that B&H had it listed as having stereo out, so I checked another web site and it had it listed as only having mono output. So, I decided not to take my chances with the DV53 from B&H. I guess it is possible that B&H has a newer version of it with stereo output but I don't really think that is very likely. It is more likely that it is just a mistake on the B&H website. So unless you would be satisfied with mono audio output I would probably not get the DV53. There is a JVC camera for not too much more money than the DV53 that does have stereo outputs. Hope this helps.

Nick Medrano · September 29th, 2003, 09:59 PM

If you capture through the firewire to your Hard drive, doesn't the exact same audio transfer, as well?

Argh man, just when I thought it was getting easier.....

You get what you pay for!

Stephen van Vuuren · September 29th, 2003, 10:04 PM

Firewire signal is stereo - mono would be for analog outs.

Nick Medrano · September 29th, 2003, 11:17 PM

Cool, so we should be okay with this Panasonic DV53 then?

Barry Green · September 30th, 2003, 12:25 AM

I can't imagine why you wouldn't be fine with it... it should be fully compatible, AND you'll pick up a spare battery, charger, and remote for your DVX100 at the same time!

Sean R Allen · September 30th, 2003, 09:08 AM

The DV53 works fine, DV over firewire is DV, so it outputs a 720x480 video w/ stereo across firewire just like every other DV device.

What the earlier posts were referring to is the analog video/audio out. So if you want to monitor on an external monitor you could only do so in mono. Not a big deal to me since I monitor sound on the computer anyways.

I use the DV53 as a deck for my DVX100 tapes and so far it has worked out great. I love the fact that I have another charger and battery too (a remote doesn't come with the DV53).

Darrell Hinton · September 30th, 2003, 09:22 PM

Well it's good to know that the DV53 will work without any audio loss. I guess I may have misunderstood what Yang was trying to say. Thanks for the info, I'll be picking up a DV53 now myself, as I have been looking to get a capture device and a spare battery for my DVX100. Two birds with one stone.

John Britt · October 1st, 2003, 08:07 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Sean R Allen :

I use the DV53 as a deck for my DVX100 tapes and so far it has worked out great. I love the fact that I have another charger and battery too (a remote doesn't come with the DV53). -->>>

Are the chargers really the same?

I have the DV53 and the DVC80 and this question has been bugging me (although not enough to wait on hold for 30 minutes w/ Panasonic!). The specs on the two chargers seem the same, but they have different part numbers on their front faces. Does anyone know if it's safe to use the DV53 charger with the bigger DVC80 batteries?

Also, the battery that comes with the DV53 is smaller than the one that comes with the DVC80 -- it might be good as a last resort battery to have on hand "just in case," but I kind of doubt you'll get much life out of it on a DVC/DVX.

I haven't been using the DV53 as a play deck (I assummed that the heads might not be as good as the DVC), but I guess I will start. I just love it for the MagicPix effect -- it's great for a tongue-in-cheek, faux "scene-of-the-crime dramatization" look! :)

Sean R Allen · October 1st, 2003, 04:59 PM

"Are thechargers really the same"

They do have different part numbers, but both have worked equally well for me charging batteries or powering the camera directly. They both have the same voltage and amperage and should be interchangable.

The good thing about Panasonic batteries are that they are all the same voltage and interchangable, unlike say...Sony who develops a new brand of battery it seems for each new line they make.

Anyways, FWIW my DV53 battery will power my DVX100 for about 40 minutes or so, but I'd have to wear my 3 other ones down first before I'd ever use it.

"I assummed that the heads might not be as good as the DVC"

The heads aren't as good in as they'll probably die before the DVC's would, i.e. they weren't made with the higher build quality the DVC/DVX were, however they are just as good at reading tapes as the DVC/DVX, meaning there's no loss of video/audio quality by using it as a deck.

Nick Medrano · October 7th, 2003, 08:10 PM

Hi all,
I just received my DV53 and started using it as a playback deck. So far it works great and the battery/charger combo that came with the DV53 is also compatible with the DVX100.

So, if I shoot in 24p and use the DV53 to plaback, it should still be okay, right? Firewire is Firewire and it doesn't matter what camera you use since firewire is the same. Correct?

Barry Green · October 8th, 2003, 01:13 AM

Correct.

Nick Medrano · October 15th, 2003, 08:27 PM

Hi guys,
I've been using the DV53 Panasonic MiniDV cam for a few days now but I can't seem to get the camera to preview the timeline's content on my TV monitor. Is this a known issue with these cheap cameras? I heard on another forum that this happens....

Thanks for any advice.

September 17th, 2003, 11:57 AM	#17
Ozzie Leon Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 68	capture device Once I've captured to my ag-dvx I then dump it using sony dsr-11. I have not had any problems doing so. __________________ Ozzie Leon

September 29th, 2003, 10:04 PM	#21
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Firewire signal is stereo - mono would be for analog outs. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

September 9th, 2003, 09:58 PM	#16
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Yes, is this problem limited to Vegas? I don't plan on using Vegas for any projects anyways.

September 29th, 2003, 08:57 PM	#18
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Anyone know if the PV-DV53 Panasonic MiniDV camcorder will work okay as a capture/playback device for my DVX100? Here's the URL: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/cont...=276525&is=REG Thank you. Concerned about it possibly incorrectly capturing the footage as 60i as someone said earlier in this thread (JVC).

September 29th, 2003, 09:09 PM	#19
Darrell Hinton Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 77	I asked this same question earlier in this thread. I was thinking about getting it because it was the cheapest MiniDV cam I could find. Another member replied and said that he had bought the DV53 to use for capture and that it worked but that the camera only had mono audio output. I noticed that B&H had it listed as having stereo out, so I checked another web site and it had it listed as only having mono output. So, I decided not to take my chances with the DV53 from B&H. I guess it is possible that B&H has a newer version of it with stereo output but I don't really think that is very likely. It is more likely that it is just a mistake on the B&H website. So unless you would be satisfied with mono audio output I would probably not get the DV53. There is a JVC camera for not too much more money than the DV53 that does have stereo outputs. Hope this helps.

September 29th, 2003, 09:59 PM	#20
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	If you capture through the firewire to your Hard drive, doesn't the exact same audio transfer, as well? Argh man, just when I thought it was getting easier..... You get what you pay for!

September 29th, 2003, 11:17 PM	#22
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Cool, so we should be okay with this Panasonic DV53 then?

September 30th, 2003, 12:25 AM	#23
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	I can't imagine why you wouldn't be fine with it... it should be fully compatible, AND you'll pick up a spare battery, charger, and remote for your DVX100 at the same time!

September 30th, 2003, 09:08 AM	#24
Sean R Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: RTP, NC Posts: 66	The DV53 works fine, DV over firewire is DV, so it outputs a 720x480 video w/ stereo across firewire just like every other DV device. What the earlier posts were referring to is the analog video/audio out. So if you want to monitor on an external monitor you could only do so in mono. Not a big deal to me since I monitor sound on the computer anyways. I use the DV53 as a deck for my DVX100 tapes and so far it has worked out great. I love the fact that I have another charger and battery too (a remote doesn't come with the DV53).

September 30th, 2003, 09:22 PM	#25
Darrell Hinton Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 77	Well it's good to know that the DV53 will work without any audio loss. I guess I may have misunderstood what Yang was trying to say. Thanks for the info, I'll be picking up a DV53 now myself, as I have been looking to get a capture device and a spare battery for my DVX100. Two birds with one stone.

October 1st, 2003, 08:07 AM	#26
John Britt Major Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 621	<<<-- Originally posted by Sean R Allen : I use the DV53 as a deck for my DVX100 tapes and so far it has worked out great. I love the fact that I have another charger and battery too (a remote doesn't come with the DV53). -->>> Are the chargers really the same? I have the DV53 and the DVC80 and this question has been bugging me (although not enough to wait on hold for 30 minutes w/ Panasonic!). The specs on the two chargers seem the same, but they have different part numbers on their front faces. Does anyone know if it's safe to use the DV53 charger with the bigger DVC80 batteries? Also, the battery that comes with the DV53 is smaller than the one that comes with the DVC80 -- it might be good as a last resort battery to have on hand "just in case," but I kind of doubt you'll get much life out of it on a DVC/DVX. I haven't been using the DV53 as a play deck (I assummed that the heads might not be as good as the DVC), but I guess I will start. I just love it for the MagicPix effect -- it's great for a tongue-in-cheek, faux "scene-of-the-crime dramatization" look! :)

October 1st, 2003, 04:59 PM	#27
Sean R Allen Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: RTP, NC Posts: 66	"Are thechargers really the same" They do have different part numbers, but both have worked equally well for me charging batteries or powering the camera directly. They both have the same voltage and amperage and should be interchangable. The good thing about Panasonic batteries are that they are all the same voltage and interchangable, unlike say...Sony who develops a new brand of battery it seems for each new line they make. Anyways, FWIW my DV53 battery will power my DVX100 for about 40 minutes or so, but I'd have to wear my 3 other ones down first before I'd ever use it. "I assummed that the heads might not be as good as the DVC" The heads aren't as good in as they'll probably die before the DVC's would, i.e. they weren't made with the higher build quality the DVC/DVX were, however they are just as good at reading tapes as the DVC/DVX, meaning there's no loss of video/audio quality by using it as a deck.

October 7th, 2003, 08:10 PM	#28
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Hi all, I just received my DV53 and started using it as a playback deck. So far it works great and the battery/charger combo that came with the DV53 is also compatible with the DVX100. So, if I shoot in 24p and use the DV53 to plaback, it should still be okay, right? Firewire is Firewire and it doesn't matter what camera you use since firewire is the same. Correct?

October 8th, 2003, 01:13 AM	#29
Barry Green Barry Wan Kenobi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 3,863	Correct.

October 15th, 2003, 08:27 PM	#30
Nick Medrano Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 331	Hi guys, I've been using the DV53 Panasonic MiniDV cam for a few days now but I can't seem to get the camera to preview the timeline's content on my TV monitor. Is this a known issue with these cheap cameras? I heard on another forum that this happens.... Thanks for any advice.