Calling camDVC80, Where are you? at DVinfo.net

Shawn Mielke · July 27th, 2003, 06:10 PM

Is anyone at all out there shooting with the DVC80? Reguarly? Devoutly? Grudgingly? I have heard so little feedback on this cam, partly because it's a relatively recent release, to be sure, and maybe partly because it's seen as a lesser cam than the you-know-which, not having 24fps and what not? From what I have been able to gather, it sounds like THE rival to the pd150. It sounds like a stellar under-$3k cam. And it's sexy too! Much sexier than the you-know-which.
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Yang Wen · July 28th, 2003, 12:58 PM

The DVX100 is also a stellar under-$3K cam. But really... if you really want that all black look, then spray paint the DVX100.

Ron Little · July 28th, 2003, 02:33 PM

Can it be done?

Can you spray paint the DVX100?

If so, why not gold.

Then when people say it is not metal.

You can say yes it is, it’s Gold.

Nick Kerpchar · July 28th, 2003, 07:29 PM

Yang and Ron,
You may both be on to something ..... designer camcorder bodies. But why stop at spray painting the bodies. I can see it now. The South Seas model would be in Mother-of-Pearl. The Ecology/Earth Friendly model in Birch Bark. The Detroit model in plastic simulated chrome. The Texas model in, what else but rawhide! The possibilities are endless! Someone is going to make a lot of money on this idea and to think it all started here.

Wow. Nick 8)

Ron Little · July 29th, 2003, 09:37 AM

The DVX 100 was featured on Tec TV and now is being used to shoot the on the street reports with Bret Larson.

They gave it a glowing report and Bret is now using it to shoot all the on the street segments.

This cam is hot!

I think Bret would paint his pink.

Yang Wen · July 29th, 2003, 09:55 AM

What is the On the Street Segment?? and are they shooting it in 24P?? what time is the On the Street Segments on?

Stephen van Vuuren · August 6th, 2003, 11:57 AM

Check with Zotz Digital. Site sponsor, very reputable and low prices, including specials for DV Info members. I got my DVX100 there.

Alex Knappenberger · August 6th, 2003, 12:58 PM

It seems like a deal to me. It goes for about $1000 less then the DVX100, and the only thing it seems to not have is the all mighty-hyped up 24P.

For $2300 (at B&H) I'd take it before a GL2, VX2000, or even a PD150 anyday....

Now someone loan me 2 grand and change. 8)

Shawn Mielke · August 6th, 2003, 05:23 PM

Hey, whattya know, responses to my post actually include commentary that actually almost directly pertains to the original question. It only took a week for the riffing to settle down :-))). Guess the wiley dvfreak sense of humor must have its' room to graze too, all workk and no play and wot not. Well, yes, I was asking for it. (Sexy camcorders, sheesh, whatever ;0;];0;} )

Shawn Mielke · August 6th, 2003, 06:09 PM

Really? You really would choose unhesitatingly the dvc80 over the pd150? The Dvc80's audio is better, yes? It's lense is better, yes? It's ergonomics are more balanced, yes? What else might make it the victor, all objectivity aside. Larger LCD?
The pd150 has dvcam which might help insure...gainful employment? It has one of the great track records of all dvtime, regarding durability. It's far more expandable, accessory-wise, yes? Help me tighten up thoughts on this. I seem to have an equal amount of admiration for both of these cameras. It might be six months before purchasing either. I just got a pdx10, so the easy answer would be the pd150, as a match. But that is beside the point of this discussion. Anyone found the 80 to be an ENG/indie prosumer revelation? Or do you just like it a whole bunch? Thanks in advance!

Yang Wen · August 6th, 2003, 08:01 PM

Well those points you named are basically what makes a DVC80 a better choice over the PD150. Sure there are probably cheaper accessories for PD150, but i'd say you should really make your decision on what kind of camera you're getting rather than the accessories. And PD150's DVCAM is not immune to drop-outs and flaws, the old PD150 I had used(fairly new back then) had to be sent back to Sony twice to get the head fixed because of crazy drop outs.

Adrian Douglas · August 7th, 2003, 12:20 AM

I've seen a few shows here on Japanese TV where cameraguys are using DVC80s in combination with larger Panasonic broadcast cameras. TVS a large station here in eastern Japan seems to use panasonic gear quite a bit.

Shawn Mielke · August 7th, 2003, 02:12 AM

The dvc80 seems to be the very same as the dvx100, physically. And I've not heard any serious compaints about that camera's construction. By the time I'm ready to buy, the dvx(dvc80) will have had almost a year of experience in the field. How will they have held up? Perhaps this sounds like hairsplittting, but I find the pd150's life span in this crazy tech market not to be dismissed. Shouldn't the 80 cost $3400 and the 150 $2400 instead of the otherway around? Isn't that telling? Or have I over simplified.....Thanks all for batting this around with me a bit.
Shawn

July 27th, 2003, 06:10 PM	#1
Shawn Mielke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 745	Calling camDVC80, Where are you? Is anyone at all out there shooting with the DVC80? Reguarly? Devoutly? Grudgingly? I have heard so little feedback on this cam, partly because it's a relatively recent release, to be sure, and maybe partly because it's seen as a lesser cam than the you-know-which, not having 24fps and what not? From what I have been able to gather, it sounds like THE rival to the pd150. It sounds like a stellar under-$3k cam. And it's sexy too! Much sexier than the you-know-which. :)))))))))))))))))))))))))) __________________ Breakthrough In Grey Room

August 6th, 2003, 11:57 AM	#7
Stephen van Vuuren Space Hipster Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,508	Check with Zotz Digital. Site sponsor, very reputable and low prices, including specials for DV Info members. I got my DVX100 there. __________________ stephen v2 www.insaturnsrings.com

August 6th, 2003, 05:23 PM	#9
Shawn Mielke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 745	Hey, whattya know, responses to my post actually include commentary that actually almost directly pertains to the original question. It only took a week for the riffing to settle down :-))). Guess the wiley dvfreak sense of humor must have its' room to graze too, all workk and no play and wot not. Well, yes, I was asking for it. (Sexy camcorders, sheesh, whatever ;0;];0;} ) __________________ Breakthrough In Grey Room

August 6th, 2003, 06:09 PM	#10
Shawn Mielke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 745	Really? You really would choose unhesitatingly the dvc80 over the pd150? The Dvc80's audio is better, yes? It's lense is better, yes? It's ergonomics are more balanced, yes? What else might make it the victor, all objectivity aside. Larger LCD? The pd150 has dvcam which might help insure...gainful employment? It has one of the great track records of all dvtime, regarding durability. It's far more expandable, accessory-wise, yes? Help me tighten up thoughts on this. I seem to have an equal amount of admiration for both of these cameras. It might be six months before purchasing either. I just got a pdx10, so the easy answer would be the pd150, as a match. But that is beside the point of this discussion. Anyone found the 80 to be an ENG/indie prosumer revelation? Or do you just like it a whole bunch? Thanks in advance! __________________ Breakthrough In Grey Room

August 7th, 2003, 12:20 AM	#12
Adrian Douglas Trustee Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chigasaki, Japan. Posts: 1,660	I've seen a few shows here on Japanese TV where cameraguys are using DVC80s in combination with larger Panasonic broadcast cameras. TVS a large station here in eastern Japan seems to use panasonic gear quite a bit. __________________ Adrian DVInfo.net Search for quick answers Where to buy? From the best in the business...DVInfo.net sponsors

July 28th, 2003, 12:58 PM	#2
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	The DVX100 is also a stellar under-$3K cam. But really... if you really want that all black look, then spray paint the DVX100.

July 28th, 2003, 02:33 PM	#3
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	Can it be done? Can you spray paint the DVX100? If so, why not gold. Then when people say it is not metal. You can say yes it is, it’s Gold.

July 28th, 2003, 07:29 PM	#4
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Yang and Ron, You may both be on to something ..... designer camcorder bodies. But why stop at spray painting the bodies. I can see it now. The South Seas model would be in Mother-of-Pearl. The Ecology/Earth Friendly model in Birch Bark. The Detroit model in plastic simulated chrome. The Texas model in, what else but rawhide! The possibilities are endless! Someone is going to make a lot of money on this idea and to think it all started here. Wow. Nick 8)

July 29th, 2003, 09:37 AM	#5
Ron Little Major Player Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pensacola Fl. Posts: 627	The DVX 100 was featured on Tec TV and now is being used to shoot the on the street reports with Bret Larson. They gave it a glowing report and Bret is now using it to shoot all the on the street segments. This cam is hot! I think Bret would paint his pink.

July 29th, 2003, 09:55 AM	#6
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	What is the On the Street Segment?? and are they shooting it in 24P?? what time is the On the Street Segments on?

August 6th, 2003, 12:58 PM	#8
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	It seems like a deal to me. It goes for about $1000 less then the DVX100, and the only thing it seems to not have is the all mighty-hyped up 24P. For $2300 (at B&H) I'd take it before a GL2, VX2000, or even a PD150 anyday.... Now someone loan me 2 grand and change. 8)

August 6th, 2003, 08:01 PM	#11
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Well those points you named are basically what makes a DVC80 a better choice over the PD150. Sure there are probably cheaper accessories for PD150, but i'd say you should really make your decision on what kind of camera you're getting rather than the accessories. And PD150's DVCAM is not immune to drop-outs and flaws, the old PD150 I had used(fairly new back then) had to be sent back to Sony twice to get the head fixed because of crazy drop outs.

August 7th, 2003, 02:12 AM	#13
Shawn Mielke Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Santa Rosa, California Posts: 745	The dvc80 seems to be the very same as the dvx100, physically. And I've not heard any serious compaints about that camera's construction. By the time I'm ready to buy, the dvx(dvc80) will have had almost a year of experience in the field. How will they have held up? Perhaps this sounds like hairsplittting, but I find the pd150's life span in this crazy tech market not to be dismissed. Shouldn't the 80 cost $3400 and the 150 $2400 instead of the otherway around? Isn't that telling? Or have I over simplified.....Thanks all for batting this around with me a bit. Shawn __________________ Breakthrough In Grey Room