GS400 vs DVC30

Kurth Bousman · August 25th, 2004, 07:05 PM

Allan-well , could you share what the sony was like ? I know it's not the right forum but that's the first account I've heard of footage for this camera. thanks

Carlos E. Martinez · August 26th, 2004, 06:30 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Allan Rejoso :
Hi Carlos. Have you bought your new cam? The comparison is made with the PC350 because it has cinelike mode (24P take note!) whilst the HC1000 does NOT have it. The comparisons are stored in a DVD that came with a Japanese video mag. -->>>

No, I haven't bought my camera yet. This new releases fortunately increase my options.

Apparently the PC350 is not a real 24p camera, and what is does is quite well explained here:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-Announces-DCR-PC350-with-24-Frames-Progressive-Scan-Effect-for-under-$1300.htm

Unfortunately it's a 1-CCD camera, so it doesn't serve my purposes.

Again it might have been interesting Sony pushing their HC1000 model, but that seems not to be their interest.

Carlos

Kaku Ito · September 2nd, 2004, 10:17 AM

About anamorphic lens:
You should check that those anamorphic lenses limit you the original zoom range of cams and it would make it little darker, so you have to consider that is acceptable to you.

About HC1000:
After owning PDX10, DVC30, GS400 and checking out XL2, for my style of shooting video and what I shoot (extreme sports), I would not use frame mode or progressive mode (24p or 30p) because I can't capture all of the motions I want to express. So, if I didn't need to use frame mode or progressive mode, HC1000 might be interesting choice. HC1000 has switchable zoom/focus ring, 4 channel recording with single 4ch microphone (I would never say 5.1 souround capable like Sony expresses on their web site, because if it is not discrete 5.1 channel, they should never say 5.1 souround capable) and high-res 16:9.

Carlos E. Martinez · September 2nd, 2004, 11:56 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kaku Ito : HC1000 has switchable zoom/focus ring, 4 channel recording with single 4ch microphone (I would never say 5.1 souround capable like Sony expresses on their web site, because if it is not discrete 5.1 channel, they should never say 5.1 souround capable) and high-res 16:9. -->>>

Please do not think you can make a good 4-ch recording using a budget quality mic. Do concentrate on making a high quality pick-up using a stereo mic and process the signal in editing for the 5:1 effect.

Multiple channel recordings should be made in non-mobile positions, with separate preamps for each mic and good monitoring to balance it all. If you lack any of these, your recording will go wrong.

Carlos

August 25th, 2004, 07:05 PM	#16
Kurth Bousman Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: san miguel allende , gto , mexico Posts: 644	Allan-well , could you share what the sony was like ? I know it's not the right forum but that's the first account I've heard of footage for this camera. thanks

August 26th, 2004, 06:30 AM	#17
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Allan Rejoso : Hi Carlos. Have you bought your new cam? The comparison is made with the PC350 because it has cinelike mode (24P take note!) whilst the HC1000 does NOT have it. The comparisons are stored in a DVD that came with a Japanese video mag. -->>> No, I haven't bought my camera yet. This new releases fortunately increase my options. Apparently the PC350 is not a real 24p camera, and what is does is quite well explained here: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-Announces-DCR-PC350-with-24-Frames-Progressive-Scan-Effect-for-under-$1300.htm Unfortunately it's a 1-CCD camera, so it doesn't serve my purposes. Again it might have been interesting Sony pushing their HC1000 model, but that seems not to be their interest. Carlos

September 2nd, 2004, 10:17 AM	#18
Kaku Ito Trustee Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo Posts: 1,382	About anamorphic lens: You should check that those anamorphic lenses limit you the original zoom range of cams and it would make it little darker, so you have to consider that is acceptable to you. About HC1000: After owning PDX10, DVC30, GS400 and checking out XL2, for my style of shooting video and what I shoot (extreme sports), I would not use frame mode or progressive mode (24p or 30p) because I can't capture all of the motions I want to express. So, if I didn't need to use frame mode or progressive mode, HC1000 might be interesting choice. HC1000 has switchable zoom/focus ring, 4 channel recording with single 4ch microphone (I would never say 5.1 souround capable like Sony expresses on their web site, because if it is not discrete 5.1 channel, they should never say 5.1 souround capable) and high-res 16:9.

September 2nd, 2004, 11:56 AM	#19
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Kaku Ito : HC1000 has switchable zoom/focus ring, 4 channel recording with single 4ch microphone (I would never say 5.1 souround capable like Sony expresses on their web site, because if it is not discrete 5.1 channel, they should never say 5.1 souround capable) and high-res 16:9. -->>> Please do not think you can make a good 4-ch recording using a budget quality mic. Do concentrate on making a high quality pick-up using a stereo mic and process the signal in editing for the 5:1 effect. Multiple channel recordings should be made in non-mobile positions, with separate preamps for each mic and good monitoring to balance it all. If you lack any of these, your recording will go wrong. Carlos