New Panasonic GS400K

Yow Cheong Hoe · July 13th, 2004, 03:01 AM

Yes, the pix in screen res looks good, I have never questioned that. It ie the marketing department that says 4MP (meaning: rivals 4MP of Canon G3), now that's way off. That's about resolution. But the edge sharpness, lens bokeh, colour interpretation, etc, they just don't match up with a still digicam. But I, too, have shot some stills from my video cam in desperate situations...

I can't use Movie Maker 2.0 either. Nothing works, everything hangs and crashes. That's been the case ever since the upgrade from Version 1. Strange...

Pioneer DVD players play NTSC and PAL sutomatically, too. And TV in South East Asia are both NTSC and PAL, too. But broadcast and camcorders are PAL.

Allan Rejoso · July 13th, 2004, 09:16 AM

Difficult for me to compare Rokta. The scenes are not identical, not to mention that the lady model in the Sony samples reminds me of my Loved one :-))

Well, see for yourself the new uploads at Guy's site. To be fair, I used the same compression level with that of the GS400. We all have to thank Guy for providing his site to everybody! But I made the stupid mistake of putting the same caption (HC1000) on all 9 samples :-).

The night scene of the passing boat, that's better than normal right? I haven't actually shot a similar scene but I thought the level of detail and clarity of the dark river is pretty impressive. Noise level appears to be very low.

Guy Bruner · July 13th, 2004, 05:40 PM

Drat! I'm on 26.4 dialup this week! Can't view these until this weekend.

Allan,
Thanks for converting and uploading the videos. You have editorial control over the captions. Just click on the dropdown box below the icon and select "Edit Text." Change the caption to whatever you want.

Dino Reyes · July 14th, 2004, 11:29 AM

Allan,
so your saying all the image samples are all from the GS400 or which samples are for HC1000 - it seems as if the ones marked HC1000 had a slightly better contrast ratio as well as more subtle lighting, esp. the indoor #2

thanks for the images
-dr

Guy Bruner · July 14th, 2004, 02:59 PM

Dino,
The album contains both GS400 and HC1000 videos. As best I can tell, the GS400 videos are not captioned as GS400. The HC1000 videos are all captioned as HC1000.

Allan Rejoso · July 17th, 2004, 01:16 AM

I wonder if anybody would be interested to see sample videos of the new Opturas taken on similar scenes as that of the GS400...same model walking by, Tokyo tower..

..and where can I upload them of course.

Rokta Bija · July 17th, 2004, 11:32 AM

Allan, I for one would really like to see the comparison, hope you can find the space. Which Optura did you use and what was your conclusion?

Guy Bruner · July 17th, 2004, 01:28 PM

Allan,
Just put them in the GS400 vs HC1000 album. I'll change the name again. :-)

Rokta Bija · July 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM

Allan, did you get a chance to use the LCD light mode on the GS400? It's the one where you can point the LCD at the subject and it glows bright white.

Can't imagine it would have much range, but curious to hear how it works. Picture of it here:

http://panasonic.jp/dvc/gs400k/colorful.html

Tony Leung · July 17th, 2004, 06:11 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Guy Bruner : Allan,
Just put them in the GS400 vs HC1000 album. I'll change the name again. :-) -->>>
Hi Guy,

I just checked the video clip. Very good quality. However it seems that there are more noise in low light condition for HC1000 sample. Any GS400K sample at night?

Tommy Haupfear · July 17th, 2004, 06:12 PM

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imagine it would have much range, but curious to hear how it works. Picture of it here:

Neat idea but not very useful on the GS100 but I'm curious to know if its improved with the GS400 since it has the Power LCD.

Tony Leung · July 17th, 2004, 06:17 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Rokta Bija : Allan, how does the HC1000 raw image look compared to the GS400, in 4:3, 16:9, sharpness, color, etc.? -->>>

Yes, I am also interested about comparison of still images of GS400K vs HC1000.

Allan, do you think you can get some and upload to Guy's site to share?

Thanks!

Tavis Shaver · July 17th, 2004, 06:24 PM

what is a "power lcd" again?

Tommy Haupfear · July 17th, 2004, 07:17 PM

Tavis, its a feature that doubles the brightness of the side LCD. It of course drains more power in this mode and is off by default when under battery power. If you have the GS400 running on AC adapter then Power LCD is on by default. Kinda reminds me of a laptop that dims when you unplug it from its AC adapter and run strictly on battery.

Allan Rejoso · July 17th, 2004, 09:07 PM

I think I've exceeded the limit of Guy's site. I was able to upload video samples of the Optura40 but I can't do the same for the samples taken using the Optura300 replacement.

July 13th, 2004, 03:01 AM	#31
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	Yes, the pix in screen res looks good, I have never questioned that. It ie the marketing department that says 4MP (meaning: rivals 4MP of Canon G3), now that's way off. That's about resolution. But the edge sharpness, lens bokeh, colour interpretation, etc, they just don't match up with a still digicam. But I, too, have shot some stills from my video cam in desperate situations... I can't use Movie Maker 2.0 either. Nothing works, everything hangs and crashes. That's been the case ever since the upgrade from Version 1. Strange... Pioneer DVD players play NTSC and PAL sutomatically, too. And TV in South East Asia are both NTSC and PAL, too. But broadcast and camcorders are PAL. __________________ Cam: Panasonic MX350EN, SOLD my MX8EN Mac: G3 400MHz PowerBook, 256 MB, OS 9 PC: Pentium 4 2800MHz, 512 MB, WindowsXP SW: iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Video Studio, various little utilities

July 17th, 2004, 06:11 PM	#40
Tony Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46	<<<-- Originally posted by Guy Bruner : Allan, Just put them in the GS400 vs HC1000 album. I'll change the name again. :-) -->>> Hi Guy, I just checked the video clip. Very good quality. However it seems that there are more noise in low light condition for HC1000 sample. Any GS400K sample at night? __________________ Travel Photos - http://www.fotop.net/hktraveller Traveller Diary - http://hktraveller.blogspot.com

July 17th, 2004, 06:17 PM	#42
Tony Leung Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 46	<<<-- Originally posted by Rokta Bija : Allan, how does the HC1000 raw image look compared to the GS400, in 4:3, 16:9, sharpness, color, etc.? -->>> Yes, I am also interested about comparison of still images of GS400K vs HC1000. Allan, do you think you can get some and upload to Guy's site to share? Thanks! __________________ Travel Photos - http://www.fotop.net/hktraveller Traveller Diary - http://hktraveller.blogspot.com

July 13th, 2004, 09:16 AM	#32
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Difficult for me to compare Rokta. The scenes are not identical, not to mention that the lady model in the Sony samples reminds me of my Loved one :-)) Well, see for yourself the new uploads at Guy's site. To be fair, I used the same compression level with that of the GS400. We all have to thank Guy for providing his site to everybody! But I made the stupid mistake of putting the same caption (HC1000) on all 9 samples :-). The night scene of the passing boat, that's better than normal right? I haven't actually shot a similar scene but I thought the level of detail and clarity of the dark river is pretty impressive. Noise level appears to be very low.

July 13th, 2004, 05:40 PM	#33
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Drat! I'm on 26.4 dialup this week! Can't view these until this weekend. Allan, Thanks for converting and uploading the videos. You have editorial control over the captions. Just click on the dropdown box below the icon and select "Edit Text." Change the caption to whatever you want.

July 14th, 2004, 11:29 AM	#34
Dino Reyes Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: brooklyn Posts: 66	Allan, so your saying all the image samples are all from the GS400 or which samples are for HC1000 - it seems as if the ones marked HC1000 had a slightly better contrast ratio as well as more subtle lighting, esp. the indoor #2 thanks for the images -dr

July 14th, 2004, 02:59 PM	#35
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Dino, The album contains both GS400 and HC1000 videos. As best I can tell, the GS400 videos are not captioned as GS400. The HC1000 videos are all captioned as HC1000.

July 17th, 2004, 01:16 AM	#36
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	I wonder if anybody would be interested to see sample videos of the new Opturas taken on similar scenes as that of the GS400...same model walking by, Tokyo tower.. ..and where can I upload them of course.

July 17th, 2004, 11:32 AM	#37
Rokta Bija Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61	Allan, I for one would really like to see the comparison, hope you can find the space. Which Optura did you use and what was your conclusion?

July 17th, 2004, 01:28 PM	#38
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Allan, Just put them in the GS400 vs HC1000 album. I'll change the name again. :-)

July 17th, 2004, 05:34 PM	#39
Rokta Bija Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 61	Allan, did you get a chance to use the LCD light mode on the GS400? It's the one where you can point the LCD at the subject and it glows bright white. Can't imagine it would have much range, but curious to hear how it works. Picture of it here: http://panasonic.jp/dvc/gs400k/colorful.html

July 17th, 2004, 06:24 PM	#43
Tavis Shaver Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 209	what is a "power lcd" again?

July 17th, 2004, 07:17 PM	#44
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Tavis, its a feature that doubles the brightness of the side LCD. It of course drains more power in this mode and is off by default when under battery power. If you have the GS400 running on AC adapter then Power LCD is on by default. Kinda reminds me of a laptop that dims when you unplug it from its AC adapter and run strictly on battery.

July 17th, 2004, 09:07 PM	#45
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	I think I've exceeded the limit of Guy's site. I was able to upload video samples of the Optura40 but I can't do the same for the samples taken using the Optura300 replacement.