keep in mind :-)) at DVinfo.net

Frank Granovski · May 17th, 2004, 01:56 PM

Keep in mind that if you live in Brazil, which uses PAL, buy yourself a NTSC model, such as the PV-DV953, MX5000 or GS100. Have a nice day. :-))

PS: in area, Brazil is larger than Australia. :-))

Tom E Young · May 17th, 2004, 05:27 PM

Brasil does not look to big like Canada in my atlas. Why is it pal and have to use ntsc North America tv system?

Kamal Tailor · May 18th, 2004, 03:55 AM

Frank, you still trying to turn ppl off the GS400 so you can get one first ;)

Brazillians are smarter than north americans.
NTSC is crap

Frank Granovski · May 18th, 2004, 04:23 AM

Yes, I want one first.

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Brazillians are smarter than north americans. NTSC is cr_p

You left yourself wide open with that one. Perhaps Carlos can explain. :-))

See about PAL-M here (Brazil): http://www.high-techproductions.com/pal.htm

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Kamal Tailor · May 19th, 2004, 05:04 AM

well see now no one told me there was a Cr_p version of PAL which emulates NTSC hehehe

low Res is bad =(

high res good =)

Frank Granovski · May 19th, 2004, 06:09 AM

Yeah, a PAL system but NTSC cams are used. So, you say PAL is better? I think so. When you view PAL on a (PAL) TV it's like high res widescreen compared with our standard.

Carlos E. Martinez · May 19th, 2004, 08:02 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Kamal Tailor : Frank, you still trying to turn ppl off the GS400 so you can get one first ;)

Brazillians are smarter than north americans.
NTSC is crap -->>>

Unfortunately we are not smarter. It's difficult for people to understand, but the broadcasting system here is PAL-M, which is not really PAL.

A PAL system is 625 lines/50Hz, but the PAL-M is 525 lines/60Hz based. What they do on transmission is send more information on the signal, which compensates for early reflections due to geographical obstacles (mountains, buildings, etc.). But it's fairly easy to transcode a PAL-M signal into an NTSC one.

In the past I shot several projects in PAL-M (1" and 3/4"), but since Betacam arrived production was standardized in NTSC. Which got things better in many aspects, even if it would have been great to move to a real PAL.

Hopefully things should get better in the future, which seems to be walking to a universal system. System should only be addressed for older TV sets.

All Brazilian TVs and VCRs are dual-system.

Carlos

May 17th, 2004, 01:56 PM	#1
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	keep in mind :-)) Keep in mind that if you live in Brazil, which uses PAL, buy yourself a NTSC model, such as the PV-DV953, MX5000 or GS100. Have a nice day. :-)) PS: in area, Brazil is larger than Australia. :-))

May 17th, 2004, 05:27 PM	#2
Tom E Young Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Edmonton, Canada Posts: 130	Brasil does not look to big like Canada in my atlas. Why is it pal and have to use ntsc North America tv system?

May 18th, 2004, 03:55 AM	#3
Kamal Tailor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia, Victoria, Melbourne Posts: 65	Frank, you still trying to turn ppl off the GS400 so you can get one first ;) Brazillians are smarter than north americans. NTSC is crap

May 19th, 2004, 05:04 AM	#5
Kamal Tailor Regular Crew Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Australia, Victoria, Melbourne Posts: 65	well see now no one told me there was a Cr_p version of PAL which emulates NTSC hehehe low Res is bad =( high res good =)

May 19th, 2004, 06:09 AM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yeah, a PAL system but NTSC cams are used. So, you say PAL is better? I think so. When you view PAL on a (PAL) TV it's like high res widescreen compared with our standard.

May 19th, 2004, 08:02 AM	#7
Carlos E. Martinez Trustee Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Posts: 1,138	<<<-- Originally posted by Kamal Tailor : Frank, you still trying to turn ppl off the GS400 so you can get one first ;) Brazillians are smarter than north americans. NTSC is crap -->>> Unfortunately we are not smarter. It's difficult for people to understand, but the broadcasting system here is PAL-M, which is not really PAL. A PAL system is 625 lines/50Hz, but the PAL-M is 525 lines/60Hz based. What they do on transmission is send more information on the signal, which compensates for early reflections due to geographical obstacles (mountains, buildings, etc.). But it's fairly easy to transcode a PAL-M signal into an NTSC one. In the past I shot several projects in PAL-M (1" and 3/4"), but since Betacam arrived production was standardized in NTSC. Which got things better in many aspects, even if it would have been great to move to a real PAL. Hopefully things should get better in the future, which seems to be walking to a universal system. System should only be addressed for older TV sets. All Brazilian TVs and VCRs are dual-system. Carlos