Twixtor 24p at DVinfo.net

Riley Harmon · May 2nd, 2004, 12:43 AM

I have more frame mode to 24p twixtor clips on http://www.fortvir.net under Member album - FXs Stuff.

There are 3 clips, two are the same but with different settings. Let me know which you think is better of the 2.

Ben Nolan · May 2nd, 2004, 09:23 AM

Verry nice..this kind of footage is convincing me to go get a 953.. i didnt really notice a difference between the 2 clips that are the same..they both looked really good..im gonna use your method for 24p when i get the camera..gj

Riley Harmon · May 2nd, 2004, 10:46 AM

I just posted another clip of a frame mode - 24p conversion in FX's stuff at fortvir.net

Guy Bruner · May 2nd, 2004, 06:28 PM

Riley,
Nice footage. Did you do color correction? If so, how did you correct?

Riley Harmon · May 2nd, 2004, 08:39 PM

I don't believe any of those clips were color corrected. If anything was done to color it was some 'levels' adjustment. But I believe thats all. I always shoot fully manual, and use white balance cards.

Samuel Murchie · May 3rd, 2004, 11:59 AM

When you indicate that the footage was shot in "Frame-Mode" (as oppossed to 60i), what exactly do you mean? Sorry: I'm unfamiliar with the 953 and I'm not clear if it shoots in 30p. I ask because the common wisdom (rumor) is that footage shot in progressive is difficult to render as 24p in post, but the "frame Mode" footage looks a LOT better than the 60i footage to my eyes...
(I also ask because I'm getting a GS100k and I had resigned myself to using the "pro cinema" mode in 30p, but I'd like to be able to render as 24p in post...)

Guy Bruner · May 3rd, 2004, 01:18 PM

Both the DV953 and GS100 have frame mode. Although it is not true progressive 30p, it is often referred to that way since the end result is a non-interlaced frame. Frame mode is interpolated. There is vertical resolution loss with this mode over 60i. 60i is about 360 lines and frame mode is about 320 lines. If you shoot in widescreen with the DV953, additional resolution is lost. Even with those losses, the pictures can look stunning.

Riley Harmon · May 3rd, 2004, 02:39 PM

But you must also remember that the 953 and gs100 both have lots of pixels to go around.

May 2nd, 2004, 12:43 AM	#1
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	Twixtor 24p I have more frame mode to 24p twixtor clips on http://www.fortvir.net under Member album - FXs Stuff. There are 3 clips, two are the same but with different settings. Let me know which you think is better of the 2.

May 2nd, 2004, 09:23 AM	#2
Ben Nolan New Boot Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 18	Verry nice..this kind of footage is convincing me to go get a 953.. i didnt really notice a difference between the 2 clips that are the same..they both looked really good..im gonna use your method for 24p when i get the camera..gj

May 2nd, 2004, 10:46 AM	#3
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	I just posted another clip of a frame mode - 24p conversion in FX's stuff at fortvir.net

May 2nd, 2004, 06:28 PM	#4
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Riley, Nice footage. Did you do color correction? If so, how did you correct?

May 2nd, 2004, 08:39 PM	#5
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	I don't believe any of those clips were color corrected. If anything was done to color it was some 'levels' adjustment. But I believe thats all. I always shoot fully manual, and use white balance cards.

May 3rd, 2004, 11:59 AM	#6
Samuel Murchie New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 11	When you indicate that the footage was shot in "Frame-Mode" (as oppossed to 60i), what exactly do you mean? Sorry: I'm unfamiliar with the 953 and I'm not clear if it shoots in 30p. I ask because the common wisdom (rumor) is that footage shot in progressive is difficult to render as 24p in post, but the "frame Mode" footage looks a LOT better than the 60i footage to my eyes... (I also ask because I'm getting a GS100k and I had resigned myself to using the "pro cinema" mode in 30p, but I'd like to be able to render as 24p in post...)

May 3rd, 2004, 01:18 PM	#7
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Both the DV953 and GS100 have frame mode. Although it is not true progressive 30p, it is often referred to that way since the end result is a non-interlaced frame. Frame mode is interpolated. There is vertical resolution loss with this mode over 60i. 60i is about 360 lines and frame mode is about 320 lines. If you shoot in widescreen with the DV953, additional resolution is lost. Even with those losses, the pictures can look stunning.

May 3rd, 2004, 02:39 PM	#8
Riley Harmon Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 424	But you must also remember that the 953 and gs100 both have lots of pixels to go around.