Is there any way to manually set 1/30th shutter speed on gs100? at DVinfo.net

Tavis Shaver · March 16th, 2004, 05:33 PM

Is there any way to manually set it to 1/30th when shooting video?

Also is there any way to get the video that you shoot to sd card so it's not tiny and 15fps?

Chris Campbell · March 16th, 2004, 11:48 PM

I am also very curious about this. Why does it stop at 1/60?? Any way if you hear an answer please post. Thanks

Frank Granovski · March 17th, 2004, 12:12 AM

Many cams don't go below 1/60th or 1/50th in manual. If you set the cam in one of those low light settings, a lower speed will be set.

Chris Campbell · March 17th, 2004, 03:24 AM

Thanks very much. Good to know.

Justin Boyle · March 17th, 2004, 04:22 AM

yes i wish that i had more control then that. i have a mx-500. i know that the sony 2100 has a lot of control over this dont know about the 2000 though. another thing also is that when in low light settings the shutter speed is lower that 25 or 30 anyway i believe. just a question i haven't tried it but is the low light better in frame mode on these cams as that would effectively be 25 or 30p. just a query. i dont think it is though. it should be
damn it heh.

Justin

Frank Granovski · March 17th, 2004, 04:43 AM

The VX2000 has 1/60th, 1/30th, 1/15th and 1/7.5 or there abouts. (Manual settings) Of course it's got the higher settings as well. The GL1's lowest shutter speed is 1/60th, but the newer GL2 has these low shutter speeds. My MX300 (PAL) just goes to 1/50th. My DVL9500s have 1/15th and 1/7.5, but not 1/30th setting. Even the DVX100 and JVC Streamcorder don't have these manually set low shutter speeds.

Tommy Haupfear · March 17th, 2004, 06:06 AM

As far as saving higher quality video to SD memory. I don't believe this is possible even though Supervideo.com might lead you to believe otherwise.

Justin Boyle · March 17th, 2004, 06:59 AM

another thing i must also say to add to this topic is using the low light settings on the mx-500 puts the camera in manual focus mode which on a camera with servo manual focus can be quite annoying. It is not the quickest camera to manually focus but it is possible and is easy enough to get accurate. it is just too slow. come on pana. help us out here give us at least 1/25 / 1/30. I would just love the gains for low lighting on this setting.

Justin

Ignacio Rodriguez · March 17th, 2004, 09:58 AM

Most Sony cams use line doubling so there is a resolution loss when going slower that 1/60. This is becasue they use interlaced CCD sensors.

Guy Bruner · March 17th, 2004, 10:28 AM

The DV953 in Magic Pix mode uses either a 1/20 or 1/25 shutter. Get lots of smearing with movement. Frame mode captures at an effective 1/30 although the shutter is 1/60. It gives 1 F-stop more light, but introduces chroma noise at very low light.

Ignacio Rodriguez · March 17th, 2004, 10:38 AM

Guy what you mean is usually known as motion blur. Smear is a different kind of problem. A vertical streaking when there is too much contrast. It's a technical problem with CCD's.

Guy Bruner · March 17th, 2004, 11:01 AM

Yep, motion blur is what I meant, not streaking or smearing. Should have been more precise in my terminology. Thanks.

Tavis Shaver · March 17th, 2004, 04:15 PM

Thanks for the info on the sd card Tommy, i thougth i was missing something.

Bogdan Vaglarov · March 18th, 2004, 12:20 AM

Very long time ago when we were discussing what would be the perfect cam I said an opinion that it would be the GS100 if it had the 1/30 shutter speed and better viewfinder!

I think in certain situations when using the live night mode (not low light from the menu but hitting once the low light button) it goes from 1/15 (or was it 1/8) to 1/25 or 1/30. But this is completely out of controll and only when enough light is present.

Chris Campbell · March 18th, 2004, 01:28 AM

I don't really understand how it works either because you can't adjust anything....it's just a one touch deal....?? Does the shutter speed act as auto depending on the dark levels?
I'm also wondering about the pro cinema feature, is it for use when you are making video for 16/9 DVD playback or what?

March 16th, 2004, 05:33 PM	#1
Tavis Shaver Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 209	Is there any way to manually set 1/30th shutter speed on gs100? Is there any way to manually set it to 1/30th when shooting video? Also is there any way to get the video that you shoot to sd card so it's not tiny and 15fps?

March 16th, 2004, 11:48 PM	#2
Chris Campbell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tokyo Japan Posts: 9	1/30th shutter speed on gs100? I am also very curious about this. Why does it stop at 1/60?? Any way if you hear an answer please post. Thanks

March 17th, 2004, 04:22 AM	#5
Justin Boyle Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 207	yes i wish that i had more control then that. i have a mx-500. i know that the sony 2100 has a lot of control over this dont know about the 2000 though. another thing also is that when in low light settings the shutter speed is lower that 25 or 30 anyway i believe. just a question i haven't tried it but is the low light better in frame mode on these cams as that would effectively be 25 or 30p. just a query. i dont think it is though. it should be damn it heh. Justin __________________ jlboyle

March 17th, 2004, 06:59 AM	#8
Justin Boyle Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 207	another thing i must also say to add to this topic is using the low light settings on the mx-500 puts the camera in manual focus mode which on a camera with servo manual focus can be quite annoying. It is not the quickest camera to manually focus but it is possible and is easy enough to get accurate. it is just too slow. come on pana. help us out here give us at least 1/25 / 1/30. I would just love the gains for low lighting on this setting. Justin __________________ jlboyle

March 17th, 2004, 09:58 AM	#9
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Most Sony cams use line doubling so there is a resolution loss when going slower that 1/60. This is becasue they use interlaced CCD sensors. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

March 17th, 2004, 12:12 AM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Many cams don't go below 1/60th or 1/50th in manual. If you set the cam in one of those low light settings, a lower speed will be set.

March 17th, 2004, 03:24 AM	#4
Chris Campbell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tokyo Japan Posts: 9	Thanks very much. Good to know.

March 17th, 2004, 04:43 AM	#6
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The VX2000 has 1/60th, 1/30th, 1/15th and 1/7.5 or there abouts. (Manual settings) Of course it's got the higher settings as well. The GL1's lowest shutter speed is 1/60th, but the newer GL2 has these low shutter speeds. My MX300 (PAL) just goes to 1/50th. My DVL9500s have 1/15th and 1/7.5, but not 1/30th setting. Even the DVX100 and JVC Streamcorder don't have these manually set low shutter speeds.

March 17th, 2004, 06:06 AM	#7
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	As far as saving higher quality video to SD memory. I don't believe this is possible even though Supervideo.com might lead you to believe otherwise.

March 17th, 2004, 10:28 AM	#10
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	The DV953 in Magic Pix mode uses either a 1/20 or 1/25 shutter. Get lots of smearing with movement. Frame mode captures at an effective 1/30 although the shutter is 1/60. It gives 1 F-stop more light, but introduces chroma noise at very low light.

March 17th, 2004, 10:38 AM	#11
Ignacio Rodriguez Contributor Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santiago, Chile Posts: 932	Guy what you mean is usually known as motion blur. Smear is a different kind of problem. A vertical streaking when there is too much contrast. It's a technical problem with CCD's. __________________ Ignacio Rodríguez in the third world. @micronauta on Twitter. Main hardware: brain, eyes, hands.

March 17th, 2004, 11:01 AM	#12
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Yep, motion blur is what I meant, not streaking or smearing. Should have been more precise in my terminology. Thanks.

March 17th, 2004, 04:15 PM	#13
Tavis Shaver Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC. Canada Posts: 209	Thanks for the info on the sd card Tommy, i thougth i was missing something.

March 18th, 2004, 12:20 AM	#14
Bogdan Vaglarov Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 366	Very long time ago when we were discussing what would be the perfect cam I said an opinion that it would be the GS100 if it had the 1/30 shutter speed and better viewfinder! I think in certain situations when using the live night mode (not low light from the menu but hitting once the low light button) it goes from 1/15 (or was it 1/8) to 1/25 or 1/30. But this is completely out of controll and only when enough light is present.

March 18th, 2004, 01:28 AM	#15
Chris Campbell New Boot Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Tokyo Japan Posts: 9	GS 100 I don't really understand how it works either because you can't adjust anything....it's just a one touch deal....?? Does the shutter speed act as auto depending on the dark levels? I'm also wondering about the pro cinema feature, is it for use when you are making video for 16/9 DVD playback or what?