Thoughts on the AG-DVC7? at DVinfo.net

Bob Burbach · January 14th, 2004, 03:05 PM

Has anyone used the DVC7? I am looking for a camera with pro features but can't afford 3 CCDs... Thoughts on the quality of images this camera will produce?

Tommy Haupfear · January 14th, 2004, 07:55 PM

Wow, I haven't been keeping up with this cam but its now just $859 at Buydig.com.

I'm guessing you need a shoulder mount or to give the "professional" look of a pro cam as thats probably why most are sold.

The DV953 is just $100 more and has 3CCD, OIS, and a great deal more features.

Frank Granovski · January 14th, 2004, 09:15 PM

Bob, one fellow from the boards that bought one was basically happy with it. But he bought it really cheap. In my opinion, all it is is a low-end Pana 1-chip, housed in a puffed-plastic body, intended for the shoulder; if you study its specs, you will notice that it ain't no professional cam, even though it's sold through Pana Pro's division in the USA---heck, it's not even a prosumer cam.

Yow Cheong Hoe · January 15th, 2004, 12:00 AM

I thought it is a model release for video students, with the right feel of a pro cam, but the budget of a consumer cam.

Frank Granovski · January 15th, 2004, 12:59 AM

It probably is where you live, but in the USA it is sold as a Panasonic Professional. Now what does this tell ya? (Something's not right?) :-))

Tommy Haupfear · January 15th, 2004, 06:17 AM

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I thought it is a model release for video students, with the right feel of a pro cam, but the budget of a consumer cam.

I didn't notice it at first but the brochure for the AG-DVC7 is nothing but children. I also read a press release from Panasonic that quoted the following.

"The company is targeting the product at education, event videography, sports, and other professional applications"

ftp://ftp.panasonic.com/pub/panasoni.../B_AG-DVC7.pdf

Talk about the red headed stepchild.

Frank Granovski · January 15th, 2004, 07:34 AM

Really? A 1-chip "Pana Pro/sort of" for the kiddies? Ahh, I give up! Pana Pro should add a toy division. :-))

I wonder if it's a good seller? Never know.

PS: now I know it's got the small viewfinder. Kids have small---er, sharp eyes. ;-))

Tommy Haupfear · January 15th, 2004, 07:44 AM

Panasonic probably made it a big nasty shoulder mount to discourage wayward youths from thieving it.

Ha - I love the sticker on the side that says "For Commercial Use Only". :)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-12/74415/AGDVC7.jpg

Bob Burbach · January 15th, 2004, 02:29 PM

I am hearing the 953 has trouble in low light... would the dvc7 be better.
I am shooting weddings, so I'll be doing a lot of shooting indoors where I can't control the lighting.
Other suggestions for cameras?

Tommy Haupfear · January 15th, 2004, 02:45 PM

Low pixel count with a 1/4" CCD and it should definitely be better in low light than the DV953 but alas I've never used one.

You might want to read the few short reviews on epinions.com and skim for any mention of low light performance. Usually if no one complains about low light its reasonably good.

Frank Granovski · January 15th, 2004, 05:19 PM

Bob, if you want to shoot weddings, get yourself a VX2000/VX2100 or a GL2---or even an XL1.

Martin Garrison · January 15th, 2004, 08:45 PM

Interesting that it uses the same body as the dvc-10/dvc-15, which where 3-chip prosumer cams. Those weren't great but they came out early; same chips as the gl1.

Ben Wiens · January 16th, 2004, 10:10 AM

Maybe the AG-DVC7 was designed as a movie prop. The last movie I was background in was Stephen King's TV series "Kindom Hospital" shot in Vancouver Canada and they used a lot of very realistic camcorder props in it. Well anyways that would be a use for it.

Johann Adler · February 9th, 2004, 07:09 PM

Hi,

I think everyone looked over one aspect of this camcorder that is interesting. It claims a F11 sensitivity @ 2000 lux. Similar to other professional cameras. I have a feeling it is very good in low light. I would love to test this though.

Frank Granovski · February 9th, 2004, 08:04 PM

Johann, yes, but it's coupled with low resolution. :-))

Read about LUX here:

http://www.dvfreak.com/lux.htm

PS: if you want a shoulder style cam, look at the DVC15 instead. But if you really want a nice shoulder style wedding cam, see if you can pick up a used JVC DV500. :-)))

January 14th, 2004, 03:05 PM	#1
Bob Burbach Tourist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 3	Thoughts on the AG-DVC7? Has anyone used the DVC7? I am looking for a camera with pro features but can't afford 3 CCDs... Thoughts on the quality of images this camera will produce?

January 15th, 2004, 02:29 PM	#9
Bob Burbach Tourist Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 3	low light shooting I am hearing the 953 has trouble in low light... would the dvc7 be better. I am shooting weddings, so I'll be doing a lot of shooting indoors where I can't control the lighting. Other suggestions for cameras?

January 14th, 2004, 07:55 PM	#2
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Wow, I haven't been keeping up with this cam but its now just $859 at Buydig.com. I'm guessing you need a shoulder mount or to give the "professional" look of a pro cam as thats probably why most are sold. The DV953 is just $100 more and has 3CCD, OIS, and a great deal more features.

January 14th, 2004, 09:15 PM	#3
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Bob, one fellow from the boards that bought one was basically happy with it. But he bought it really cheap. In my opinion, all it is is a low-end Pana 1-chip, housed in a puffed-plastic body, intended for the shoulder; if you study its specs, you will notice that it ain't no professional cam, even though it's sold through Pana Pro's division in the USA---heck, it's not even a prosumer cam.

January 15th, 2004, 12:00 AM	#4
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	I thought it is a model release for video students, with the right feel of a pro cam, but the budget of a consumer cam.

January 15th, 2004, 12:59 AM	#5
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	It probably is where you live, but in the USA it is sold as a Panasonic Professional. Now what does this tell ya? (Something's not right?) :-))

January 15th, 2004, 07:34 AM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Really? A 1-chip "Pana Pro/sort of" for the kiddies? Ahh, I give up! Pana Pro should add a toy division. :-)) I wonder if it's a good seller? Never know. PS: now I know it's got the small viewfinder. Kids have small---er, sharp eyes. ;-))

January 15th, 2004, 07:44 AM	#8
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Panasonic probably made it a big nasty shoulder mount to discourage wayward youths from thieving it. Ha - I love the sticker on the side that says "For Commercial Use Only". :) http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-12/74415/AGDVC7.jpg

January 15th, 2004, 02:45 PM	#10
Tommy Haupfear Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 1,415	Low pixel count with a 1/4" CCD and it should definitely be better in low light than the DV953 but alas I've never used one. You might want to read the few short reviews on epinions.com and skim for any mention of low light performance. Usually if no one complains about low light its reasonably good.

January 15th, 2004, 05:19 PM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Bob, if you want to shoot weddings, get yourself a VX2000/VX2100 or a GL2---or even an XL1.

January 15th, 2004, 08:45 PM	#12
Martin Garrison Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 173	Interesting that it uses the same body as the dvc-10/dvc-15, which where 3-chip prosumer cams. Those weren't great but they came out early; same chips as the gl1.

January 16th, 2004, 10:10 AM	#13
Ben Wiens Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 56	Maybe the AG-DVC7 was designed as a movie prop. The last movie I was background in was Stephen King's TV series "Kindom Hospital" shot in Vancouver Canada and they used a lot of very realistic camcorder props in it. Well anyways that would be a use for it.

February 9th, 2004, 07:09 PM	#14
Johann Adler Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 40	Hi, I think everyone looked over one aspect of this camcorder that is interesting. It claims a F11 sensitivity @ 2000 lux. Similar to other professional cameras. I have a feeling it is very good in low light. I would love to test this though.

February 9th, 2004, 08:04 PM	#15
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Johann, yes, but it's coupled with low resolution. :-)) Read about LUX here: http://www.dvfreak.com/lux.htm PS: if you want a shoulder style cam, look at the DVC15 instead. But if you really want a nice shoulder style wedding cam, see if you can pick up a used JVC DV500. :-)))