go ahead, spend my money

Frank Granovski · November 5th, 2003, 11:51 PM

Who in the USA sells the Raynox HD-6600PRO43?

Would this be a special order via Allan Rejoso?

How much does this wide angle cost?

Is it better than the HD5000?

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 01:58 AM

HD6600 is cheaper in the US Frank (by more than $30). Forgot the name of the US seller. It's in Robin's site. Perhaps Patricia knows.

Emmet Lucey · November 6th, 2003, 02:14 AM

http://www.digitaletc.com/go/item/2954 for the hd 6600. But the centerline rez spec is only 340, which seems much less than the hd 5000...?

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 02:17 AM

Ok, somebody please explain the relevance of these data:

HD6600: Resolution at center 350 lines/mm (MTF 30%)

HD5000: Resolution at center 600 lines (MTF 30%)

so which is better 350 lines/mm OR 600 lines

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 02:45 AM

According to Raynox Japan.

The 5000 does have a higher resolution at the center BUT, due to the bigger circumference and lower distortion of the 6600, the 6600 has the better gtotal balanceh and thus the better performing lens in terms of video quality although it is only 6x zoom capable.

The upgrade to the 6600, the 7000 will also work wonders with these Pany cams although a 58 to 43mm adapter ring is required. HOWEVER, note that the 7000 weighs over 300 grams.

Frank Granovski · November 6th, 2003, 03:35 AM

So there is or will be a Raynox HD7000, which is supposed to be the best but weights more. I can live with more weight, but can the cam? (Hopefully it comes with filter threads in the front? How much?)

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 03:41 AM

HD7000....(Hopefully it comes with filter threads in the front? How much?)

Yes it has been out for months now I believe.
82mm filter threads at the front...very mean looking lens.

Frank Granovski · November 6th, 2003, 03:48 AM

Thanks Allan. I'd go have a look at one but I doubt they sell it here. Any thoughts if it is better than the Pana wide angle?

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 03:49 AM

To add...

HD7000: Res at center 540 lines/mm, full zoom capable, 313 grams...optional adapter rings for 37, 43 and 52 mm available.

It seems to be cheaper in the US as well.

Patricia Kim · November 6th, 2003, 03:49 AM

Try the Raynox web site, www.raynox.com. I don't recall them addressing the threads issue, but I think their pictures are pretty good and you can pretty much tell if the lenses are threaded or not. B&H carries a lot of Raynox lenses, as does 2filter.com. Someone who owns a black mamba, by the way, showed me how he set up the Panasonic wide angle to accept filters and a hood. Not duct tape, but epoxy, the metal ring from a 72mm filter and very steady hands (for applying the epoxy without getting it on the lens). Looks good and worth considering, because the Panasonic is a very nice piece of glass - good shoot through and no noticeable barrelling (although I prefer the smaller size of the Raynox 5000).

Allan Rejoso · November 6th, 2003, 03:57 AM

Any thoughts if it is better than the Pana wide angle?

I'd choose the 6600 over the Pany wide angle any time...so the 7000 is even better IMO, but would need the support of the left hand I guess...well, the added weight should make the GS100 more stable right?

Frank Granovski · November 6th, 2003, 04:04 AM

Thanks. Yes, it'll make it more stable. You just have to add a poker battery to make it balanced.

Just imagine if you screw on a lens hood into the HD7000. People seeing you with it might think you've got a VX2000. :)

Emmet Lucey · November 6th, 2003, 04:44 AM

umm not to go too far off topic but since the original thread was spending my money ...

i am looking at getting the azden smx - 2 mike, would i need a 120 dollar beachtek box or can i get by with the azden minjack to xlr cable for 15 bucks ... ?

Frank Granovski · November 6th, 2003, 05:02 AM

You probably can get away with the azden minjack to xlr cable for 15 bucks, but why not the Beachtek? You'll get better controls.

Emmet Lucey · November 6th, 2003, 05:11 AM

well, mainly to avoid bulking up the camera - 'm going to be using it alot with either a steadycam or a hollywood light. i fact i am tempted to drop down to the azden sgm x, at settling for useable performance at less cost and bulk. . .

unless just an xlr/miniplug cable wll definitely do the trick (?), then i'll put the money saved from the beachtek into a better mike :-)

my wish list at B& H reaches well below the bottom of my computer screen now you see, so these last couple hundred bucks / couple hundred grams weight i must budget carefully...

November 5th, 2003, 11:51 PM	#16
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Who in the USA sells the Raynox HD-6600PRO43? Would this be a special order via Allan Rejoso? How much does this wide angle cost? Is it better than the HD5000?

November 6th, 2003, 01:58 AM	#17
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	HD6600 is cheaper in the US Frank (by more than $30). Forgot the name of the US seller. It's in Robin's site. Perhaps Patricia knows.

November 6th, 2003, 02:14 AM	#18
Emmet Lucey Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: lillehammer norway Posts: 67	http://www.digitaletc.com/go/item/2954 for the hd 6600. But the centerline rez spec is only 340, which seems much less than the hd 5000...?

November 6th, 2003, 02:17 AM	#19
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Ok, somebody please explain the relevance of these data: HD6600: Resolution at center 350 lines/mm (MTF 30%) HD5000: Resolution at center 600 lines (MTF 30%) so which is better 350 lines/mm OR 600 lines

November 6th, 2003, 02:45 AM	#20
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	According to Raynox Japan. The 5000 does have a higher resolution at the center BUT, due to the bigger circumference and lower distortion of the 6600, the 6600 has the better gtotal balanceh and thus the better performing lens in terms of video quality although it is only 6x zoom capable. The upgrade to the 6600, the 7000 will also work wonders with these Pany cams although a 58 to 43mm adapter ring is required. HOWEVER, note that the 7000 weighs over 300 grams.

November 6th, 2003, 03:35 AM	#21
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	So there is or will be a Raynox HD7000, which is supposed to be the best but weights more. I can live with more weight, but can the cam? (Hopefully it comes with filter threads in the front? How much?)

November 6th, 2003, 03:41 AM	#22
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	HD7000....(Hopefully it comes with filter threads in the front? How much?) Yes it has been out for months now I believe. 82mm filter threads at the front...very mean looking lens.

November 6th, 2003, 03:48 AM	#23
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thanks Allan. I'd go have a look at one but I doubt they sell it here. Any thoughts if it is better than the Pana wide angle?

November 6th, 2003, 03:49 AM	#24
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	To add... HD7000: Res at center 540 lines/mm, full zoom capable, 313 grams...optional adapter rings for 37, 43 and 52 mm available. It seems to be cheaper in the US as well.

November 6th, 2003, 03:49 AM	#25
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	Try the Raynox web site, www.raynox.com. I don't recall them addressing the threads issue, but I think their pictures are pretty good and you can pretty much tell if the lenses are threaded or not. B&H carries a lot of Raynox lenses, as does 2filter.com. Someone who owns a black mamba, by the way, showed me how he set up the Panasonic wide angle to accept filters and a hood. Not duct tape, but epoxy, the metal ring from a 72mm filter and very steady hands (for applying the epoxy without getting it on the lens). Looks good and worth considering, because the Panasonic is a very nice piece of glass - good shoot through and no noticeable barrelling (although I prefer the smaller size of the Raynox 5000).

November 6th, 2003, 03:57 AM	#26
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Any thoughts if it is better than the Pana wide angle? I'd choose the 6600 over the Pany wide angle any time...so the 7000 is even better IMO, but would need the support of the left hand I guess...well, the added weight should make the GS100 more stable right?

November 6th, 2003, 04:04 AM	#27
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Thanks. Yes, it'll make it more stable. You just have to add a poker battery to make it balanced. Just imagine if you screw on a lens hood into the HD7000. People seeing you with it might think you've got a VX2000. :)

November 6th, 2003, 04:44 AM	#28
Emmet Lucey Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: lillehammer norway Posts: 67	umm not to go too far off topic but since the original thread was spending my money ... i am looking at getting the azden smx - 2 mike, would i need a 120 dollar beachtek box or can i get by with the azden minjack to xlr cable for 15 bucks ... ?

November 6th, 2003, 05:02 AM	#29
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	You probably can get away with the azden minjack to xlr cable for 15 bucks, but why not the Beachtek? You'll get better controls.

November 6th, 2003, 05:11 AM	#30
Emmet Lucey Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: lillehammer norway Posts: 67	well, mainly to avoid bulking up the camera - 'm going to be using it alot with either a steadycam or a hollywood light. i fact i am tempted to drop down to the azden sgm x, at settling for useable performance at less cost and bulk. . . unless just an xlr/miniplug cable wll definitely do the trick (?), then i'll put the money saved from the beachtek into a better mike :-) my wish list at B& H reaches well below the bottom of my computer screen now you see, so these last couple hundred bucks / couple hundred grams weight i must budget carefully...