Accessory list for GS100 at DVinfo.net

DooKee Cho · August 14th, 2003, 01:55 AM

Hi,

I'm new in DV world and soon GS100 will come to my hand so
I collect accesory list(which is available in USA) for future.
Please give me a comment or advice.
( I put multiple choices for budget.
All price are from B & H. You could find cheaper price.)

- Memory Card
Lexar
256MB 32x Secure Digital (SD) Card
Price $79.95

or

Panasonic
256MB Secure Digital (SD) Card - Price $79.95

P.S. 512 MB SD card is too expensive now.

- Tripod
Velbon
Videomate 607 Tripod with PH-368 2 Way Fluid Head (Quick Release) & Case - Supports 15 lbs
Price $69.95

or
Velbon CX-586 Tripod with semi Fluid Head (can't find it in USA but expensice one. But it should be less than $50 in Korea)
- good for bucks.

or

Slik
504QF II Tripod with Fluid Panhead (Quick Release) - Supports 11 lbs
Price $119.95

or

Bogen / Manfrotto
3280 35" Tripod Bag - for 3011, 3021 and 3033 Tripods - Navy
Price $39.95

Bogen / Manfrotto
3021N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3130 Fluid Head (Quick Release) - Supports 8.80 lb
Price $186.00

- Battery Pack
Power-2000
CGA-DU21(VW-VBD210) Lithium Ion Battery Pack - Price $84.95

or

Panasonic
CGA-DU21(VW-VBD210) Lithium Ion Battery Pack -
Price $99.95

VW-VBD7 is not available yet in USA.

- Soft Case
Lowepro
Nova 4 AW Camera Shoulder Bag - Price $52.95

- hard Case ??

- UV filter
B+W
43mm UV Haze 010 (MRC) Multi-Resistant Coating Glass Filter
Price $36.50

or

Hoya or Tiffen UV

- Hood
Hama
55mm Screw-In Plastic Wide Angle Lens Hood with Cap
Price $16.95
(report indicated that this hood doesn't need step down ring for GS100 but may need step up ring for Raynox Wide angle Lens)

- Cleaning and English Remote Control
Panasonic
AY-DVMCLA Mini DV Cleaning Cassette - Price $14.99

Panasonic
PV-DRC9 Remote Control(English) For Panasonic Digital Camcorders
- Price $18.95

LCD protect film (for PDA or piece tape would work)

panasonic(or Fuji) miniDV - not from sony

or TDK miniDV (6 for $25 from costco)

Rain Cover ??

Video Light ??

mic ??

Firewire cable 4-6pin 6ft - $4.49 (in newegg)

- Wide Angle Conversion Lens
Raynox
DCR-720, 0.72x, Wide Angle Conversion Lens (52mm Camera Mount)
Price $69.95
+ Tiffen
52mm-43mm Step-Down Ring (Lens to Filter)
Price $9.95

or

HD-6600 Pro 43mm 0.66x High Quality Wide Angle Converter Lens
Price $119.95

Frank Granovski · August 14th, 2003, 03:28 AM

Someone's got a few bucks to spend. :)

I'd go with the Videomate 607 Tripod with PH-368 2 . (I had something similar---the one I found beside the trash bin out back.)

I'm sure that either mem card will do.

The Lowpro Nova 4 should be just fine. I wouldn't bother with a hard case.

A rain cover is a good idea.

I would just get 2, 2 hour batteries.

Everything else seems okay. Why a B+W? Why not just a Hoya or Tiffen UV? They also make good polarizers. I'd use Fuji tapes. Which adaptor? Get the one Tom Hardwick recommends.

Samuel Raj · August 14th, 2003, 09:51 AM

You Could try Lexar SD memory card. Its almost equivalent to panasoic.

Sandisk I hear lot of malfunctions and write error problems from lot of forums. They say sandisk is junk. IF it works, then its your luck. Ofcourse they have warranty plan, but replacement takes lot of time.

Samuel Raj · August 14th, 2003, 10:06 AM

I use TDK minidv tapes. It works wonderful

I get cheaper in costco 6 tapes for 25 bucks. I never experienced any problems.

DooKee Cho · August 14th, 2003, 12:29 PM

Thank Frank and Samuel Raj.
I updated the post from your suggestion.

Samuel Raj · August 15th, 2003, 10:12 PM

Did anybody tried this battery? is this the original panasonic battery or a third party one

Samuel Raj · August 15th, 2003, 10:13 PM

http://snurl.com/1s5h

Bogdan Vaglarov · August 18th, 2003, 02:00 AM

Just to report that received my order from Hong Kong. Got it for 10 days (stated 5-12 days delivery) at my door.

My responce will be a bit mixed and not finall. I ordered 2 Pana batts 21 and one Sony QM71.

First the bad news not affecting the Pana users - the Sony batt wouldn't charge or power up the cam. I'll be working on that issue with the seller. Inside I read the leaflet is from 1998? Is it possible to be dead after long stock?

Pana batt No1 - didn't power my GS100 straight out of the pack. Put for charging - finished for les than 1h40'. Then showed full charge. I used for 15' recording - my dayly shots from the kids. Then decided to put it on test.
Whatched one 60' tape on my TV with the LCD open. Still showing full charge.

Then striped one tape (with cap on - recording). The battery finished exactly few seconds before the tape end (62'). So 1 hr continius recording + 15-20 normal rec situation + 1hr playback with LCD.

I thought that is close to the batt specs so I opened the second pack. This time straight from the pack the indication was full. The first batt this time charged for more than 3 hours.

All batteries were in their original "western" packing (different from the Japanese one). The Pana batts looked slightly scrached on places including the labels but nothing would suggest that they are not brand new.

Hope that helps somebody - price was funny.

I'll update if there are more issues.

Samuel Raj · August 18th, 2003, 08:30 PM

Thanks Bogdan for your info.

Do we need to remove the hood to add this raynox
HD-6600 Pro 43mm 0.66x wide angle lens, if so, if we remove the hood, is there any thread to mount the 43 mm lens?

I guess the original panasonic doesnt come with threads, its just like to push it in after removing the hood.

In that case, raynox wide lens, we have to attach with out removing the hood, to make use of the threads, Anybody tried these two?

Frank Granovski · August 18th, 2003, 08:48 PM

The good news is that all the Raynox adaptors I've seen have filter threads on the front (like the Tiffens). So you can always screw on a lens hood in those threads or into a filter (screwed on to the adaptor). A good Hoya rubber hood here in Vancouver costs $29 Canadian. (I've got 3---for my SLR.)

Bogdan Vaglarov · August 18th, 2003, 08:50 PM

I haven't tried to remove the hood by now but I think it's also on a tread.

In the Japanese manual it's clearly stated you have to remove the hood if you use wide/tele conversion lens.

Screw on filters straight onto the hood.

If the conv lens has tread for filters you can attach one too but there might be vigneting in the edges in full wide (they write this to protect themselves from such cases - it's case by case and depend on the range/quality of conversion lens/filter).

One question here. Is it apropriate to use UV filter also indoors?
I want to leave it on the lens for protector all the time. I prefer to have UV rather than just protector to have the advantages it gives for outdoors shooting.

Allan Rejoso · August 18th, 2003, 09:07 PM

The hood MUST be removed. It is threaded. The threaded portion on the camera barrel is actually deeper than that on the front of the hood and appropriately designed for mounting heavy converter lenses. It also makes sense to keep the converter lenses as close as possible to the cam lens itself. Pany recommends more light when using converter lenses.

For filters, you can attach them in front of the hood.

THUS, the picture of the MX5000 in Yahoo with a converter lens attached is not in accordance with Pany's recommendation.

Samuel Raj · August 18th, 2003, 10:31 PM

Thanks Allan, Bogdan, Frank,

I never removed the front hood so far, So Allan says that thread near the lens is deeper than the front thread, thats good!

So, its good idea to use the inner thread for wide angle lens. It really makes sense.

The better near the lens, the lesser the distortion or vignetting...

Samuel Raj · August 25th, 2003, 09:45 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by Bogdan Vaglarov : Just to report that received my order from Hong Kong. Got it for 10 days (stated 5-12 days delivery) at my door.

My responce will be a bit mixed and not finall. I ordered 2 Pana batts 21 and one Sony QM71.

First the bad news not affecting the Pana users - the Sony batt wouldn't charge or power up the cam. I'll be working on that issue with the seller. Inside I read the leaflet is from 1998? Is it possible to be dead after long stock?

Pana batt No1 - didn't power my GS100 straight out of the pack. Put for charging - finished for les than 1h40'. Then showed full charge. I used for 15' recording - my dayly shots from the kids. Then decided to put it on test.
Whatched one 60' tape on my TV with the LCD open. Still showing full charge.

Then striped one tape (with cap on - recording). The battery finished exactly few seconds before the tape end (62'). So 1 hr continius recording + 15-20 normal rec situation + 1hr playback with LCD.

I thought that is close to the batt specs so I opened the second pack. This time straight from the pack the indication was full. The first batt this time charged for more than 3 hours.

All batteries were in their original "western" packing (different from the Japanese one). The Pana batts looked slightly scrached on places including the labels but nothing would suggest that they are not brand new.

Hope that helps somebody - price was funny.

I'll update if there are more issues. -->>>

Bogdan, pana batteries working good as far as now? No problems right?(charge retention is good like brand new)

I may order these batteries soon.

Bogdan Vaglarov · August 25th, 2003, 10:14 PM

I have the feeling that Sony batt was just too old although looking brand new.

Batterries have to be refreshed periodicaly to maintain their charging ability.

The Pana batteries shouldn't be bad as they are new type released with the new line small palmcorders (GS50, GS70) a year or a bit more ago.

By now after the test I gave to the first battery I haven't finished using the second one. I shot some night festivals last weekend and before that the bat was on the cam since the time of the charging (a week) with ocasional use for short periods. It now shows 2 bars (half power) so I think there is no problem and the batteries are good.

I can't give anybody garantie as buying from eBay is at own risk, but the seller Easy258 is responcive (within the time difference).

P.S. I've forgot to mention that at the test I did I also rewinded twice the full lenth of a tape (60')

August 14th, 2003, 01:55 AM	#1
DooKee Cho New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Naperville Posts: 17	Accessory list for GS100 Hi, I'm new in DV world and soon GS100 will come to my hand so I collect accesory list(which is available in USA) for future. Please give me a comment or advice. ( I put multiple choices for budget. All price are from B & H. You could find cheaper price.) - Memory Card Lexar 256MB 32x Secure Digital (SD) Card Price $79.95 or Panasonic 256MB Secure Digital (SD) Card - Price $79.95 P.S. 512 MB SD card is too expensive now. - Tripod Velbon Videomate 607 Tripod with PH-368 2 Way Fluid Head (Quick Release) & Case - Supports 15 lbs Price $69.95 or Velbon CX-586 Tripod with semi Fluid Head (can't find it in USA but expensice one. But it should be less than $50 in Korea) - good for bucks. or Slik 504QF II Tripod with Fluid Panhead (Quick Release) - Supports 11 lbs Price $119.95 or Bogen / Manfrotto 3280 35" Tripod Bag - for 3011, 3021 and 3033 Tripods - Navy Price $39.95 Bogen / Manfrotto 3021N Tripod Legs (Chrome) with 3130 Fluid Head (Quick Release) - Supports 8.80 lb Price $186.00 - Battery Pack Power-2000 CGA-DU21(VW-VBD210) Lithium Ion Battery Pack - Price $84.95 or Panasonic CGA-DU21(VW-VBD210) Lithium Ion Battery Pack - Price $99.95 VW-VBD7 is not available yet in USA. - Soft Case Lowepro Nova 4 AW Camera Shoulder Bag - Price $52.95 - hard Case ?? - UV filter B+W 43mm UV Haze 010 (MRC) Multi-Resistant Coating Glass Filter Price $36.50 or Hoya or Tiffen UV - Hood Hama 55mm Screw-In Plastic Wide Angle Lens Hood with Cap Price $16.95 (report indicated that this hood doesn't need step down ring for GS100 but may need step up ring for Raynox Wide angle Lens) - Cleaning and English Remote Control Panasonic AY-DVMCLA Mini DV Cleaning Cassette - Price $14.99 Panasonic PV-DRC9 Remote Control(English) For Panasonic Digital Camcorders - Price $18.95 LCD protect film (for PDA or piece tape would work) panasonic(or Fuji) miniDV - not from sony or TDK miniDV (6 for $25 from costco) Rain Cover ?? Video Light ?? mic ?? Firewire cable 4-6pin 6ft - $4.49 (in newegg) - Wide Angle Conversion Lens Raynox DCR-720, 0.72x, Wide Angle Conversion Lens (52mm Camera Mount) Price $69.95 + Tiffen 52mm-43mm Step-Down Ring (Lens to Filter) Price $9.95 or HD-6600 Pro 43mm 0.66x High Quality Wide Angle Converter Lens Price $119.95

August 15th, 2003, 10:13 PM	#7
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	Here is the link for the above post http://snurl.com/1s5h

August 18th, 2003, 02:00 AM	#8
Bogdan Vaglarov Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 366	batteries from eBay Just to report that received my order from Hong Kong. Got it for 10 days (stated 5-12 days delivery) at my door. My responce will be a bit mixed and not finall. I ordered 2 Pana batts 21 and one Sony QM71. First the bad news not affecting the Pana users - the Sony batt wouldn't charge or power up the cam. I'll be working on that issue with the seller. Inside I read the leaflet is from 1998? Is it possible to be dead after long stock? Pana batt No1 - didn't power my GS100 straight out of the pack. Put for charging - finished for les than 1h40'. Then showed full charge. I used for 15' recording - my dayly shots from the kids. Then decided to put it on test. Whatched one 60' tape on my TV with the LCD open. Still showing full charge. Then striped one tape (with cap on - recording). The battery finished exactly few seconds before the tape end (62'). So 1 hr continius recording + 15-20 normal rec situation + 1hr playback with LCD. I thought that is close to the batt specs so I opened the second pack. This time straight from the pack the indication was full. The first batt this time charged for more than 3 hours. All batteries were in their original "western" packing (different from the Japanese one). The Pana batts looked slightly scrached on places including the labels but nothing would suggest that they are not brand new. Hope that helps somebody - price was funny. I'll update if there are more issues.

August 25th, 2003, 09:45 PM	#14
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	Re: batteries from eBay <<<-- Originally posted by Bogdan Vaglarov : Just to report that received my order from Hong Kong. Got it for 10 days (stated 5-12 days delivery) at my door. My responce will be a bit mixed and not finall. I ordered 2 Pana batts 21 and one Sony QM71. First the bad news not affecting the Pana users - the Sony batt wouldn't charge or power up the cam. I'll be working on that issue with the seller. Inside I read the leaflet is from 1998? Is it possible to be dead after long stock? Pana batt No1 - didn't power my GS100 straight out of the pack. Put for charging - finished for les than 1h40'. Then showed full charge. I used for 15' recording - my dayly shots from the kids. Then decided to put it on test. Whatched one 60' tape on my TV with the LCD open. Still showing full charge. Then striped one tape (with cap on - recording). The battery finished exactly few seconds before the tape end (62'). So 1 hr continius recording + 15-20 normal rec situation + 1hr playback with LCD. I thought that is close to the batt specs so I opened the second pack. This time straight from the pack the indication was full. The first batt this time charged for more than 3 hours. All batteries were in their original "western" packing (different from the Japanese one). The Pana batts looked slightly scrached on places including the labels but nothing would suggest that they are not brand new. Hope that helps somebody - price was funny. I'll update if there are more issues. -->>> Bogdan, pana batteries working good as far as now? No problems right?(charge retention is good like brand new) I may order these batteries soon.

August 14th, 2003, 03:28 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Someone's got a few bucks to spend. :) I'd go with the Videomate 607 Tripod with PH-368 2 . (I had something similar---the one I found beside the trash bin out back.) I'm sure that either mem card will do. The Lowpro Nova 4 should be just fine. I wouldn't bother with a hard case. A rain cover is a good idea. I would just get 2, 2 hour batteries. Everything else seems okay. Why a B+W? Why not just a Hoya or Tiffen UV? They also make good polarizers. I'd use Fuji tapes. Which adaptor? Get the one Tom Hardwick recommends.

August 14th, 2003, 09:51 AM	#3
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	You Could try Lexar SD memory card. Its almost equivalent to panasoic. Sandisk I hear lot of malfunctions and write error problems from lot of forums. They say sandisk is junk. IF it works, then its your luck. Ofcourse they have warranty plan, but replacement takes lot of time.

August 14th, 2003, 10:06 AM	#4
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	I use TDK minidv tapes. It works wonderful I get cheaper in costco 6 tapes for 25 bucks. I never experienced any problems.

August 14th, 2003, 12:29 PM	#5
DooKee Cho New Boot Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Naperville Posts: 17	Thank Frank and Samuel Raj. I updated the post from your suggestion.

August 15th, 2003, 10:12 PM	#6
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	Did anybody tried this battery? is this the original panasonic battery or a third party one

August 18th, 2003, 08:30 PM	#9
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	Thanks Bogdan for your info. Do we need to remove the hood to add this raynox HD-6600 Pro 43mm 0.66x wide angle lens, if so, if we remove the hood, is there any thread to mount the 43 mm lens? I guess the original panasonic doesnt come with threads, its just like to push it in after removing the hood. In that case, raynox wide lens, we have to attach with out removing the hood, to make use of the threads, Anybody tried these two?

August 18th, 2003, 08:48 PM	#10
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	The good news is that all the Raynox adaptors I've seen have filter threads on the front (like the Tiffens). So you can always screw on a lens hood in those threads or into a filter (screwed on to the adaptor). A good Hoya rubber hood here in Vancouver costs $29 Canadian. (I've got 3---for my SLR.)

August 18th, 2003, 08:50 PM	#11
Bogdan Vaglarov Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 366	I haven't tried to remove the hood by now but I think it's also on a tread. In the Japanese manual it's clearly stated you have to remove the hood if you use wide/tele conversion lens. Screw on filters straight onto the hood. If the conv lens has tread for filters you can attach one too but there might be vigneting in the edges in full wide (they write this to protect themselves from such cases - it's case by case and depend on the range/quality of conversion lens/filter). One question here. Is it apropriate to use UV filter also indoors? I want to leave it on the lens for protector all the time. I prefer to have UV rather than just protector to have the advantages it gives for outdoors shooting.

August 18th, 2003, 09:07 PM	#12
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	The hood MUST be removed. It is threaded. The threaded portion on the camera barrel is actually deeper than that on the front of the hood and appropriately designed for mounting heavy converter lenses. It also makes sense to keep the converter lenses as close as possible to the cam lens itself. Pany recommends more light when using converter lenses. For filters, you can attach them in front of the hood. THUS, the picture of the MX5000 in Yahoo with a converter lens attached is not in accordance with Pany's recommendation.

August 18th, 2003, 10:31 PM	#13
Samuel Raj Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 210	Thanks Allan, Bogdan, Frank, I never removed the front hood so far, So Allan says that thread near the lens is deeper than the front thread, thats good! So, its good idea to use the inner thread for wide angle lens. It really makes sense. The better near the lens, the lesser the distortion or vignetting...

August 25th, 2003, 10:14 PM	#15
Bogdan Vaglarov Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 366	I have the feeling that Sony batt was just too old although looking brand new. Batterries have to be refreshed periodicaly to maintain their charging ability. The Pana batteries shouldn't be bad as they are new type released with the new line small palmcorders (GS50, GS70) a year or a bit more ago. By now after the test I gave to the first battery I haven't finished using the second one. I shot some night festivals last weekend and before that the bat was on the cam since the time of the charging (a week) with ocasional use for short periods. It now shows 2 bars (half power) so I think there is no problem and the batteries are good. I can't give anybody garantie as buying from eBay is at own risk, but the seller Easy258 is responcive (within the time difference). P.S. I've forgot to mention that at the test I did I also rewinded twice the full lenth of a tape (60')