gs100k (?) acessories and a crazy amalgam cam at DVinfo.net

Paul Martin · August 13th, 2003, 01:31 AM

Hello everyone, I think I'm going to go ahead and get the gs100k.
I was a co-owner of an MX3000 before my girlfriend and I split up and she bought me out (since it was her idea to buy it initially). We bought it from Tim through ebay and he was as honest as could be. I wonder what people think is the best way to get this camera in the states. Also, does anyone think I'm making the wrong choice?
I like small cams, color, dynamic range (low to bright light), don't mind the japanese menus, like 3.5" LCDs, and am willing to spend as much or as little as necessary to get the best cam.
That reminds me: a stereotypical Fifth Ave. camera shop was selling a (PAL) Sony PC-120E for either $699 or $499 (depending on which guy you asked). There must be a hundred of these oddly similar looking stores in this city. The few price placards in their front windows all seem to have been written by the same hand, and in them I've always felt treated as not someone to help but to beat. Anyway, at $700-900 off of B&H's list how bad could the catch be? I was thinking of going for it, but have since read much to suggest I stick with my country's format. With the gs100k this is not a dilemma.
So unless some of you think I should get a PDX-10, or pay $900 for an MX-8, or know where to get an MX-3000, or think that I'll regret anything but an HD-10 (I could be convinced its size is not a disadvantage, relative to an MX), or should get the cheap PC-120, or anything, then what accessories should I buy with the gs100k? PriceJapan.com lists the following:
LF43W (lenz filiter kit; in stock): $25, VBD7 (waist battery; in stock): $156, VBD210 (long battery: 3-4 days after order): $126
SPGS100 (underwater housing unit: in stock): $280, LW4307 (wide lenz; in stock): $112
LT4314 (tele lenz; in stock: $112, SJGS100 (rain jacket) : 3-4 days after order): $66.
LDH3 (video light' 3-4 days after order): $56, FLHDJ3 (video flash; 3-4 days after order): $83
I'm no scubadiver, but that housing could make trips to the beach simply blissful.

Thanks for your time. I don't post much but I am a grateful reader.

Finally I have one more crazy idea: how about a 3 large-ccd camera-only (like what’s used for amusement park ride photography and I’ve seen sell on ebay for fractions of their supposed massive worth) hooked up via s-video to either a portable miniDv deck (like panasonic’s) or even to a laptop? These things often have ½” chips…

Frank Granovski · August 13th, 2003, 02:03 AM

If "Tim...was as honest as could be," why not contact him? Allan is a member here and lives in Japan. He can also get the GS100 for you. Another option is the MX Source (found on the supervideo pages). Then there's pricejapan, like you mentioned.

Why are you looking at PAL cams?

Paul Martin · August 13th, 2003, 02:21 AM

Thanks Frank

Why PAL? For the higher res, better color, easier film transfer. I believe I've read here you own an MX300. Canada's not on PAL, so why'd you go PAL?

Frank Granovski · August 13th, 2003, 02:43 AM

1/2 of the videos I shoot are in PAL. (I sell videos overseas.) Also, all my family outside of Canada live in PALsville.

For DV to film transfers, sure, go with PAL. But are you only going to shoot for this reason?

Paul Martin · August 13th, 2003, 03:15 AM

No, I don't think that I will make anything likely to generate enough interest to justify a film transfer for many years, by which time digital projectors will have become much better, cheaper, and more widespread, making a film transfer less necessary. I'm just going to use this camera to help myself enjoy life.

Allan Rejoso · August 13th, 2003, 06:38 AM

Paul,

Assuming I could still find an MX3000 (I know of at least 1 display unit and they probably have VERY few on stock still, and at least one used item - cheap but lots of scratches), which one will you be more interested, MX3000 or GS100K?

Oh, if you're interested in PAL, why don't you make an offer for Frank's MX300?

Regards
Allan Rejoso

Young Lee · August 13th, 2003, 06:34 PM

"1/2 of the videos I shoot are in PAL. (I sell videos overseas.) "

You mean stock footage? I'm curious.

Frank Granovski · August 13th, 2003, 06:53 PM

Stock footage? I don't know what you mean. I had 2 MX300s. One I used extensively, then gave it to my wife's sister overseas. The one I have now, I have hardly used. I use 2 AIWA MX100 VCRs for conversions.

Allan Rejoso · August 14th, 2003, 04:10 AM

Just verified. The Jap MX3000K can still be obtained brand new (from Japan). Unfortunately, price is still expensive.

$1,395 delivered to the US or Canada.

Young Lee · August 14th, 2003, 05:10 PM

You said you sell videos overseas.

Frank Granovski · August 14th, 2003, 06:50 PM

Yes. I used to sell these ones:

http://www.fustyle.com

But now I sell these ones:

http://www.8palm.com

I also receive PAL footage from overseas, so I have to convert it to view it on my 20" Emerson TV with a built-in VCR which I got for free with the furniture my wife bought some time back. :)

Young Lee · August 15th, 2003, 09:52 AM

Wow, you must be very interested in Chinese stuff (including martial arts).

Frank Granovski · August 15th, 2003, 02:50 PM

Only with some Chinese martial arts. I've been training in Baguazhang for about 35 years---and I still do, even with my bad back and bad knees. :)

August 13th, 2003, 01:31 AM	#1
Paul Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 47	gs100k (?) acessories and a crazy amalgam cam Hello everyone, I think I'm going to go ahead and get the gs100k. I was a co-owner of an MX3000 before my girlfriend and I split up and she bought me out (since it was her idea to buy it initially). We bought it from Tim through ebay and he was as honest as could be. I wonder what people think is the best way to get this camera in the states. Also, does anyone think I'm making the wrong choice? I like small cams, color, dynamic range (low to bright light), don't mind the japanese menus, like 3.5" LCDs, and am willing to spend as much or as little as necessary to get the best cam. That reminds me: a stereotypical Fifth Ave. camera shop was selling a (PAL) Sony PC-120E for either $699 or $499 (depending on which guy you asked). There must be a hundred of these oddly similar looking stores in this city. The few price placards in their front windows all seem to have been written by the same hand, and in them I've always felt treated as not someone to help but to beat. Anyway, at $700-900 off of B&H's list how bad could the catch be? I was thinking of going for it, but have since read much to suggest I stick with my country's format. With the gs100k this is not a dilemma. So unless some of you think I should get a PDX-10, or pay $900 for an MX-8, or know where to get an MX-3000, or think that I'll regret anything but an HD-10 (I could be convinced its size is not a disadvantage, relative to an MX), or should get the cheap PC-120, or anything, then what accessories should I buy with the gs100k? PriceJapan.com lists the following: LF43W (lenz filiter kit; in stock): $25, VBD7 (waist battery; in stock): $156, VBD210 (long battery: 3-4 days after order): $126 SPGS100 (underwater housing unit: in stock): $280, LW4307 (wide lenz; in stock): $112 LT4314 (tele lenz; in stock: $112, SJGS100 (rain jacket) : 3-4 days after order): $66. LDH3 (video light' 3-4 days after order): $56, FLHDJ3 (video flash; 3-4 days after order): $83 I'm no scubadiver, but that housing could make trips to the beach simply blissful. Thanks for your time. I don't post much but I am a grateful reader. Finally I have one more crazy idea: how about a 3 large-ccd camera-only (like what’s used for amusement park ride photography and I’ve seen sell on ebay for fractions of their supposed massive worth) hooked up via s-video to either a portable miniDv deck (like panasonic’s) or even to a laptop? These things often have ½” chips…

August 13th, 2003, 02:03 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	If "Tim...was as honest as could be," why not contact him? Allan is a member here and lives in Japan. He can also get the GS100 for you. Another option is the MX Source (found on the supervideo pages). Then there's pricejapan, like you mentioned. Why are you looking at PAL cams?

August 13th, 2003, 02:21 AM	#3
Paul Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 47	Thanks Frank Why PAL? For the higher res, better color, easier film transfer. I believe I've read here you own an MX300. Canada's not on PAL, so why'd you go PAL?

August 13th, 2003, 02:43 AM	#4
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	1/2 of the videos I shoot are in PAL. (I sell videos overseas.) Also, all my family outside of Canada live in PALsville. For DV to film transfers, sure, go with PAL. But are you only going to shoot for this reason?

August 13th, 2003, 03:15 AM	#5
Paul Martin Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 47	No, I don't think that I will make anything likely to generate enough interest to justify a film transfer for many years, by which time digital projectors will have become much better, cheaper, and more widespread, making a film transfer less necessary. I'm just going to use this camera to help myself enjoy life.

August 13th, 2003, 06:38 AM	#6
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Paul, Assuming I could still find an MX3000 (I know of at least 1 display unit and they probably have VERY few on stock still, and at least one used item - cheap but lots of scratches), which one will you be more interested, MX3000 or GS100K? Oh, if you're interested in PAL, why don't you make an offer for Frank's MX300? Regards Allan Rejoso

August 13th, 2003, 06:34 PM	#7
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	"1/2 of the videos I shoot are in PAL. (I sell videos overseas.) " You mean stock footage? I'm curious.

August 13th, 2003, 06:53 PM	#8
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Stock footage? I don't know what you mean. I had 2 MX300s. One I used extensively, then gave it to my wife's sister overseas. The one I have now, I have hardly used. I use 2 AIWA MX100 VCRs for conversions.

August 14th, 2003, 04:10 AM	#9
Allan Rejoso Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 569	Just verified. The Jap MX3000K can still be obtained brand new (from Japan). Unfortunately, price is still expensive. $1,395 delivered to the US or Canada.

August 14th, 2003, 05:10 PM	#10
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	You said you sell videos overseas.

August 14th, 2003, 06:50 PM	#11
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Yes. I used to sell these ones: http://www.fustyle.com But now I sell these ones: http://www.8palm.com I also receive PAL footage from overseas, so I have to convert it to view it on my 20" Emerson TV with a built-in VCR which I got for free with the furniture my wife bought some time back. :)

August 15th, 2003, 09:52 AM	#12
Young Lee Major Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 268	Wow, you must be very interested in Chinese stuff (including martial arts).

August 15th, 2003, 02:50 PM	#13
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Only with some Chinese martial arts. I've been training in Baguazhang for about 35 years---and I still do, even with my bad back and bad knees. :)