New owner of a Panasonic PV-DV852 at DVinfo.net

Gerald Lee · June 10th, 2003, 03:46 AM

After doing some careful research on these forums, I've decided to get the DV852. It was $599 new at the Fry's here in Arlington.

I bought a Tiffen UV filter and a Panasonic 80 min sp tape (Fuji didn't have anything higher than 60minsp at the store). Right now I'm looking for a wide lens (.7 or wider) and maybe some filters to help with movie making. I plan on building a camera stabilizer as well.

I just saw The Shining again today (Best Buy has Kubrick films 10 bucks each if you buy 2) and was impressed at the colors. This made me depressed to realize I can't do anything near that with a 1 CCD camera. Then I looked at the price tag and was happy again.

Also, I heard YowCH talking about Panasonic doing an extended warranty thing anytime during the initial warranty period. How do I access this? Also, what's a good place to find a wide lens for this camera (besides ebay hehe)?

Cool forum btw, thanks.

Frank Granovski · June 10th, 2003, 03:56 AM

Congratulations, on your great new cam, Gerald. At $599, that's almost a steal!

In the .7, 43mm thread size, you have 2 choices: Tiffen and Panasonic. For a wider one, look at the new Raynox with the step-up rings. I've heard good things about it---actually, all 3 of these adaptors are good.

I don't know about extended warranties in the US. Perhaps call your Pana rep? Should be in the phone book.

Welcome to dvinfo.net!

Yow Cheong Hoe · June 10th, 2003, 04:44 AM

Blessed is he who can find a discontinued model which is very good and at a wonderful price.

I believe that extended warranty may not be available in teh states, but your insurance agent may be able to work out a scheme of $10 a month for you to cover for a few years.

My set-up for the wide angle lens is this:
Camera -- step-up 43 to 52 -- step-up 52 to 55 -- 55 ring* -- Fujifilm 0.79x for the S602 still camera.

* The 55 ring is actually a filter with the glass knocked off. This is necessary as the Fuji WA has a protrusion behind that will interfere with the step-up adaptor.

Actually, the MX8 (DV852) is already having one of the best wide angle (about 35mm widest) for MiniDV cams, comparing even to expensive 3CCD cams. Most consumer cams are at about 45mm WA (yucks). 0.79 x 35mm = 28mm, good enough for most applications. You might have a little vignetting, though.

Do not forget that the MX8 produces pretty decent 1.0MP stills.

Yow Cheong Hoe · June 10th, 2003, 04:47 AM

Oh, why the need for 80min tape? I believe the tapes are thinner and more prone to sticking or breakage.

I use Sony tapes, the cheap ones. They seem to have less wear and tear on the playhead. With Panasonic tapes, I clean once every 2 weeks. With Sony, once every 3 months?!?!

Gerald Lee · June 10th, 2003, 10:57 PM

After looking around it seems Panny 80 min tapes will blow up my camera or something. I just don't like having to change tapes so I decided to get the 80 minute. Also the cool looking silver/blue packing sold me. I used to think as long as I got a name brand tape I was fine, but I guess not hehe.

Gerald Lee · June 11th, 2003, 04:17 PM

Alright, I just got a firewire cable, 6 Fuji 60 min dv tapes, and a panasonic head cleaner. I need a camera bag, wide angle lens, filters, editing software, insurance, and a coke. The accesories are going to cost as much as the camera itself!

Oh well, it'll be worth it when I start making cool shorts and stuff.

Frank Granovski · June 11th, 2003, 08:28 PM

Look at the Lowepro Nova 3 or 4 for a bag---5, if you really want to stuff 'er.

Filters? A UV for sure. For sunny days, a strong skylight or polarizer.

Wide angle? You know the 3 all ready mentioned.

Software? Vegas seems to be a favourite among many people on this board: good bang for the buck.

A Coke? Yeah, I drink that poison too. :)

Tom Hardwick · June 12th, 2003, 03:25 AM

The Shining, huh? This film is a shining example of how Krubrick wouldn't tolerate any nasty barrel distortion in his movies. Look at the Steadycam tracking shots as Danny rides his little pedal car around the deserted corridors of the Overlook Hotel. Frightening stuff, hey?

If you're after that sort of look then the Raynox 6600 Pro has to be the 0.6x to go for. All other lenses distort straight lines a lot more than this one.

tom.

June 10th, 2003, 03:46 AM	#1
Gerald Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 64	New owner of a Panasonic PV-DV852 After doing some careful research on these forums, I've decided to get the DV852. It was $599 new at the Fry's here in Arlington. I bought a Tiffen UV filter and a Panasonic 80 min sp tape (Fuji didn't have anything higher than 60minsp at the store). Right now I'm looking for a wide lens (.7 or wider) and maybe some filters to help with movie making. I plan on building a camera stabilizer as well. I just saw The Shining again today (Best Buy has Kubrick films 10 bucks each if you buy 2) and was impressed at the colors. This made me depressed to realize I can't do anything near that with a 1 CCD camera. Then I looked at the price tag and was happy again. Also, I heard YowCH talking about Panasonic doing an extended warranty thing anytime during the initial warranty period. How do I access this? Also, what's a good place to find a wide lens for this camera (besides ebay hehe)? Cool forum btw, thanks.

June 10th, 2003, 04:44 AM	#3
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	Blessed is he who can find a discontinued model which is very good and at a wonderful price. I believe that extended warranty may not be available in teh states, but your insurance agent may be able to work out a scheme of $10 a month for you to cover for a few years. My set-up for the wide angle lens is this: Camera -- step-up 43 to 52 -- step-up 52 to 55 -- 55 ring* -- Fujifilm 0.79x for the S602 still camera. * The 55 ring is actually a filter with the glass knocked off. This is necessary as the Fuji WA has a protrusion behind that will interfere with the step-up adaptor. Actually, the MX8 (DV852) is already having one of the best wide angle (about 35mm widest) for MiniDV cams, comparing even to expensive 3CCD cams. Most consumer cams are at about 45mm WA (yucks). 0.79 x 35mm = 28mm, good enough for most applications. You might have a little vignetting, though. Do not forget that the MX8 produces pretty decent 1.0MP stills. __________________ Cam: Panasonic MX350EN, SOLD my MX8EN Mac: G3 400MHz PowerBook, 256 MB, OS 9 PC: Pentium 4 2800MHz, 512 MB, WindowsXP SW: iMovie, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, Ulead Video Studio, various little utilities

June 10th, 2003, 03:56 AM	#2
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Congratulations, on your great new cam, Gerald. At $599, that's almost a steal! In the .7, 43mm thread size, you have 2 choices: Tiffen and Panasonic. For a wider one, look at the new Raynox with the step-up rings. I've heard good things about it---actually, all 3 of these adaptors are good. I don't know about extended warranties in the US. Perhaps call your Pana rep? Should be in the phone book. Welcome to dvinfo.net!

June 10th, 2003, 04:47 AM	#4
Yow Cheong Hoe Major Player Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Singapore, Passport: Malaysia Posts: 407	Oh, why the need for 80min tape? I believe the tapes are thinner and more prone to sticking or breakage. I use Sony tapes, the cheap ones. They seem to have less wear and tear on the playhead. With Panasonic tapes, I clean once every 2 weeks. With Sony, once every 3 months?!?!

June 10th, 2003, 10:57 PM	#5
Gerald Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 64	After looking around it seems Panny 80 min tapes will blow up my camera or something. I just don't like having to change tapes so I decided to get the 80 minute. Also the cool looking silver/blue packing sold me. I used to think as long as I got a name brand tape I was fine, but I guess not hehe.

June 11th, 2003, 04:17 PM	#6
Gerald Lee Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 64	Alright, I just got a firewire cable, 6 Fuji 60 min dv tapes, and a panasonic head cleaner. I need a camera bag, wide angle lens, filters, editing software, insurance, and a coke. The accesories are going to cost as much as the camera itself! Oh well, it'll be worth it when I start making cool shorts and stuff.

June 11th, 2003, 08:28 PM	#7
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Look at the Lowepro Nova 3 or 4 for a bag---5, if you really want to stuff 'er. Filters? A UV for sure. For sunny days, a strong skylight or polarizer. Wide angle? You know the 3 all ready mentioned. Software? Vegas seems to be a favourite among many people on this board: good bang for the buck. A Coke? Yeah, I drink that poison too. :)

June 12th, 2003, 03:25 AM	#8
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	The Shining, huh? This film is a shining example of how Krubrick wouldn't tolerate any nasty barrel distortion in his movies. Look at the Steadycam tracking shots as Danny rides his little pedal car around the deserted corridors of the Overlook Hotel. Frightening stuff, hey? If you're after that sort of look then the Raynox 6600 Pro has to be the 0.6x to go for. All other lenses distort straight lines a lot more than this one. tom.