wireless headphones

Chris Harding · November 23rd, 2010, 04:56 PM

Hi Giroud

What physical size??? I assume that other dealers will sell these as your link talks about a miniumum order of 500 units!!

I was under the impression that BT also used the 2.4GHZ band???? Your other option is to use an "el-cheapo" on camera radio mic setup. We have them here for around the $49 mark...you get a transmitter and Azden type hotshoe bracket for the cam and the transmitter has line input too so you can monitor from the audio out of the camera. The receiver can just slip into your pocket.

I tried these as my first radio mics for weddings and the squelch level is a little too noisy!! but they would work for just monitoring audio!

The move to BT was mainly for convenience as the headphones are "all-in one" (I think Randy will agree too) so all you need to do is clip the phones onto your head without having wired phones going to a receiver on your person. All I really need to know is whether the audio is physically working (has the person accidentally ripped out the mic cable???) I'm now in the process of swapping the over the head phones (which are way too small for my head) for a pair of BT jogger phones which go behind your neck. With the shoulder mount camera it might be a little neater too.

Chris

Randy Johnson · November 23rd, 2010, 08:24 PM

yeah for weddings my new system seems pretty good so far. Its a little pricey I bought the $50 transmitter mainly because theres not wires it plugs right into my headphone jack and doesnt get in the way at all. the headphones I bought I use to my cell phone too there the loudest I have ever heard. Its nice not getting a set of ear buds twisted up when your trying to shoot and being able to walk away from the camera if you need to without having to have forgotten you tied to the camera and yanking the camera around:)

Giroud Francois · November 24th, 2010, 02:09 PM

the set a mentioned are about the size of a pack of cigarettes, just a bit shorter.
the fact they are stereo, digital and have line-in input allows to use them in lots of cases.
need a link to the DJ mixer or just want to send some camera's audio for monitoring ?
As said, they are a real pain to find because they are branded with different names.
i got 2 sets, one labelled CTA, the other is noname
I tried these ones too, they are a lot cheaper and smaller, but quality is a bit poor sometimes, don't know why. But when quality is not required, they are acceptable.

2.4 GHz Wireless Audio Transmitter-Sound Port - eBay (item 280593978037 end time Dec-24-10 00:01:13 PST)

Chris Harding · November 25th, 2010, 06:14 AM

Thanks for the info Giroud

Those could be an option!! If they can be found!

Randy, the dongle I sent back to the supplier works fine. Being ignorant of BlueTooth I was unaware that to pair the dongle and headphones you need to have an audio signal present at the dongle!!

He has now sent it back to me and I will do things the right way!! Plug it into the cam headphones jack before trying to pair it!!! He also said that the phones/dongle should be in close proximity during pairing??? (sorta right next to each other???)

A quick question from you??? Once the audio dongle and phones are "paired" do you have to repeat the process everytime you use them or do they "remember" what they are paired with????

Chris

Randy Johnson · November 25th, 2010, 11:39 PM

I dont know about yours in particular mine can be paired without and audio source. after they are paired you SHOULD be fine the trick I needed to find out is how to turn each unit off and on and put into pairing mode. There all deifferent its like "hold the button for 6 seconds and whatnot".

Chris Harding · December 1st, 2010, 01:53 AM

Hi Randy

Just got my dongle back and I exchanged the single headset for a "joggers" stereo headset. The former only monitored one channel.

This one is pretty loud too!!! I had to reduce the headphones volume so it didn't blast my ears off. It works really well actually. The transmission delay is someone you have to get used to so it's advisable not to watch the bride talking and your monitored audio arrives a fraction of a second later!!!

With the stereo headphones I can now monitor the audio wirelessly on both my XLR channels!! It also doesn't seem to bother the UHF or VHF radio mics!!!

Chris

Randy Johnson · December 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM

Chris,
Good its sounds just like my rig now. I dont need to look at the B&G I just need to know the sound is there. Im excited no more headset tangles!

Dan Asseff · December 1st, 2010, 09:54 PM

This is the ones I have. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498098-REG/Sony_DRBT21G_B_DR_BT21G_B_Stereo_Bluetooth_Behind_the_Neck.htmlhttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/549969-REG/Sony_TMRBT10A.html
The only problem I have is the delay I get with wireless headphones. Does any body have the same Problems?

Dan
Forever Moments Video Productions

Chris Harding · December 2nd, 2010, 05:45 PM

Hi Dan

Yep all BT audio seems to have a short delay so that's perfectly normal !! You get used to it I guess????

When I was testing my setup with the camera it was strange getting my speech back in the phone a fraction of a second later!!! I suspect it wouldn't be too off-putting at a wedding???? I will try my setup at the weekend and see if the delay is annoying or not.... it will be comforting (even with a delay) to be able to monitor the audio of my A Camera while I'm busy with my B-Camera!!! From a distance, I have no issue with the recording side as the cams have tally lights back and front but audio has always been a worried which in the past, means putting your 2nd cam down, putting on headphones to check the audio and then going back to what you were doing... The BT will make life a lot easier!!

Chris

Randy Johnson · December 7th, 2010, 03:53 PM

I did a wedding on Sunday with mine and everything worked great! The only thing I would recomend is only monitor your wireless, with the delay and monitoring the shotgun mic it weirded me out.

Chris Harding · December 7th, 2010, 05:00 PM

Hi Randy

I have a wedding coming up on Friday and Saturday so I'll give my new system a shot then!! My dongle is stereo so it sends Channel 1 (usually the radio mic) to the left headphone and Channel 2 to the right. If I'm using 2 radio mics the 2nd will be on Channel 2 otherwise I have a Rode VideoMic on the cam which feeds Channel 2 as a backup.... What exactly makes it weird??? Surely both will have the same delay or does the BT send them one after the other????

I guess it might be weird if you look at the couple but if you look away while you monitor it might seem less weird!! I wonder why BT has a delay in transmission????

Chris

Dan Asseff · December 7th, 2010, 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=Randy J with the delay and monitoring the shotgun mic it weirded me out.[/QUOTE]

I know exactly what Randy is talking about. That is why I don't use them for work.

Dan
Forever Moments Video Productions

Randy Johnson · December 8th, 2010, 01:32 AM

I normally dont need to monitor my nat sound mic I go by levels alone more or less. So I just setup the monitor out of the AG-HMC150 just to output channel 1 through the headphones so I only hear my wireless.

November 23rd, 2010, 04:56 PM	#16
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Giroud What physical size??? I assume that other dealers will sell these as your link talks about a miniumum order of 500 units!! I was under the impression that BT also used the 2.4GHZ band???? Your other option is to use an "el-cheapo" on camera radio mic setup. We have them here for around the $49 mark...you get a transmitter and Azden type hotshoe bracket for the cam and the transmitter has line input too so you can monitor from the audio out of the camera. The receiver can just slip into your pocket. I tried these as my first radio mics for weddings and the squelch level is a little too noisy!! but they would work for just monitoring audio! The move to BT was mainly for convenience as the headphones are "all-in one" (I think Randy will agree too) so all you need to do is clip the phones onto your head without having wired phones going to a receiver on your person. All I really need to know is whether the audio is physically working (has the person accidentally ripped out the mic cable???) I'm now in the process of swapping the over the head phones (which are way too small for my head) for a pair of BT jogger phones which go behind your neck. With the shoulder mount camera it might be a little neater too. Chris

November 23rd, 2010, 08:24 PM	#17
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	yeah for weddings my new system seems pretty good so far. Its a little pricey I bought the $50 transmitter mainly because theres not wires it plugs right into my headphone jack and doesnt get in the way at all. the headphones I bought I use to my cell phone too there the loudest I have ever heard. Its nice not getting a set of ear buds twisted up when your trying to shoot and being able to walk away from the camera if you need to without having to have forgotten you tied to the camera and yanking the camera around:)

November 24th, 2010, 02:09 PM	#18
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	the set a mentioned are about the size of a pack of cigarettes, just a bit shorter. the fact they are stereo, digital and have line-in input allows to use them in lots of cases. need a link to the DJ mixer or just want to send some camera's audio for monitoring ? As said, they are a real pain to find because they are branded with different names. i got 2 sets, one labelled CTA, the other is noname I tried these ones too, they are a lot cheaper and smaller, but quality is a bit poor sometimes, don't know why. But when quality is not required, they are acceptable. 2.4 GHz Wireless Audio Transmitter-Sound Port - eBay (item 280593978037 end time Dec-24-10 00:01:13 PST)

November 25th, 2010, 06:14 AM	#19
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Thanks for the info Giroud Those could be an option!! If they can be found! Randy, the dongle I sent back to the supplier works fine. Being ignorant of BlueTooth I was unaware that to pair the dongle and headphones you need to have an audio signal present at the dongle!! He has now sent it back to me and I will do things the right way!! Plug it into the cam headphones jack before trying to pair it!!! He also said that the phones/dongle should be in close proximity during pairing??? (sorta right next to each other???) A quick question from you??? Once the audio dongle and phones are "paired" do you have to repeat the process everytime you use them or do they "remember" what they are paired with???? Chris

November 25th, 2010, 11:39 PM	#20
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I dont know about yours in particular mine can be paired without and audio source. after they are paired you SHOULD be fine the trick I needed to find out is how to turn each unit off and on and put into pairing mode. There all deifferent its like "hold the button for 6 seconds and whatnot".

December 1st, 2010, 01:53 AM	#21
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Randy Just got my dongle back and I exchanged the single headset for a "joggers" stereo headset. The former only monitored one channel. This one is pretty loud too!!! I had to reduce the headphones volume so it didn't blast my ears off. It works really well actually. The transmission delay is someone you have to get used to so it's advisable not to watch the bride talking and your monitored audio arrives a fraction of a second later!!! With the stereo headphones I can now monitor the audio wirelessly on both my XLR channels!! It also doesn't seem to bother the UHF or VHF radio mics!!! Chris

December 1st, 2010, 04:59 PM	#22
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	Chris, Good its sounds just like my rig now. I dont need to look at the B&G I just need to know the sound is there. Im excited no more headset tangles!

December 1st, 2010, 09:54 PM	#23
Dan Asseff Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port Orange Fl Posts: 317	This is the ones I have. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/498098-REG/Sony_DRBT21G_B_DR_BT21G_B_Stereo_Bluetooth_Behind_the_Neck.htmlhttp://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/549969-REG/Sony_TMRBT10A.html The only problem I have is the delay I get with wireless headphones. Does any body have the same Problems? Dan Forever Moments Video Productions

December 2nd, 2010, 05:45 PM	#24
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Dan Yep all BT audio seems to have a short delay so that's perfectly normal !! You get used to it I guess???? When I was testing my setup with the camera it was strange getting my speech back in the phone a fraction of a second later!!! I suspect it wouldn't be too off-putting at a wedding???? I will try my setup at the weekend and see if the delay is annoying or not.... it will be comforting (even with a delay) to be able to monitor the audio of my A Camera while I'm busy with my B-Camera!!! From a distance, I have no issue with the recording side as the cams have tally lights back and front but audio has always been a worried which in the past, means putting your 2nd cam down, putting on headphones to check the audio and then going back to what you were doing... The BT will make life a lot easier!! Chris

December 7th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#25
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I did a wedding on Sunday with mine and everything worked great! The only thing I would recomend is only monitor your wireless, with the delay and monitoring the shotgun mic it weirded me out.

December 7th, 2010, 05:00 PM	#26
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Randy I have a wedding coming up on Friday and Saturday so I'll give my new system a shot then!! My dongle is stereo so it sends Channel 1 (usually the radio mic) to the left headphone and Channel 2 to the right. If I'm using 2 radio mics the 2nd will be on Channel 2 otherwise I have a Rode VideoMic on the cam which feeds Channel 2 as a backup.... What exactly makes it weird??? Surely both will have the same delay or does the BT send them one after the other???? I guess it might be weird if you look at the couple but if you look away while you monitor it might seem less weird!! I wonder why BT has a delay in transmission???? Chris

December 7th, 2010, 07:46 PM	#27
Dan Asseff Major Player Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Port Orange Fl Posts: 317	[QUOTE=Randy J with the delay and monitoring the shotgun mic it weirded me out.[/QUOTE] I know exactly what Randy is talking about. That is why I don't use them for work. Dan Forever Moments Video Productions

December 8th, 2010, 01:32 AM	#28
Randy Johnson Trustee Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Newark, Delaware Posts: 1,067	I normally dont need to monitor my nat sound mic I go by levels alone more or less. So I just setup the monitor out of the AG-HMC150 just to output channel 1 through the headphones so I only hear my wireless.