Panasonic AG-AF100 series

Tom Hardwick · April 13th, 2010, 11:37 AM

Good words Dan. If you've got a film inside you, shoot it NOW.
If you wait for the approaching train rather than hopping on the one in the station you can find yourself waiting for ever. Getting a bit poetically romantic here, but you know what I mean.

The film has far more to do with you, the person cradling the hardware, than ever it has to do with the hardware.

tom.

Ed David · April 13th, 2010, 07:31 PM

First the HPX370 and now this camera - Panasonic is back on top!

Craig Kovatch · April 14th, 2010, 12:07 AM

This unit records at 24mbps long-GOP and 4:2:0. Other than a larger sensor, is this unit going to offer a whole lot more over the EX-3?

Paulo Teixeira · April 14th, 2010, 01:14 AM

It looks like the AG-AF100 will be a lot easier to hold, at least depending on the type of lens you put on it.

Peter Moretti · April 14th, 2010, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig Kovatch

This unit records at 24mbps long-GOP and 4:2:0. Other than a larger sensor, is this unit going to offer a whole lot more over the EX-3?

Well 30% off the price.

Mikel Arturo · April 14th, 2010, 02:27 AM

4:2:0?
In this "Cinema" Cam?
Man, 4:2:2.

Floris van Eck · April 14th, 2010, 05:21 AM

I expect it to have 4:2:2 as well. Panasonic isn't stupid.

Glen Vandermolen · April 14th, 2010, 06:35 AM

I saw it at NAB and from what I was told, it can output uncompressed video through the HD/SDI port and it will have 4:2:2. A Panny rep said you can output it to a P2 deck and record directly to a P2 card. Otherwise it will hold many, many hours of compressed video on the SD cards. It looked to be about 20% larger than an HPX200, and taller, with a large carrying handle that might be detachable.

And what does this camera have that the EX-3 doesn't? Lenses, lenses, lenses! Canon mount, Nikon, Olympus, PL, Zeiss - true 35mm depth of field, in a near-35mm chip. In a true video camcorder, with 2 XLR ports. This is what pretty much what everyone on this forum was begging for. I honestly didn't see this one coming, not from Panasonic. I expect Canon and Sony to fire back with similar models by next NAB. A Panny rep said the camcorder's codec was better than Canon's D-SLRs.

I wonder of you can attach a B4 mount lens? Hmmm....

Thomas Smet · April 14th, 2010, 09:22 AM

All the current DSLR's inlcuding the Canon 5d and 7d record 4:2:0 so this isn't anything bad. Considering the amazing stuff that has been seen from DSLR's I doubt 4:2:0 is going to be a huge issue. If this camera actually does a proper low pass filter to get good quality video from a DSLR then this is going to be huge. If you want 4:2:2 get a NanoFlash and add it to this puppy. 24 mbit AVCHD is also a much better format then 35 Mbit mpeg2 so yes the encoding quality will be better then the EX1 or EX3. AVCHD is a much better encoding technology and 24 mbit AVCHD can look like 50 mbit+ mpeg2.

Simon Wyndham · April 14th, 2010, 09:58 AM

Quote:

I expect Canon and Sony to fire back with similar models by next NAB.

Sony already have. They announced a similar camera at the same time as Panasonic.

Ethan Cooper · April 14th, 2010, 11:14 AM

Just a guess here but I'd say Sony's camera will be considerably more expensive. Just seems that way to me.

Jim Snow · April 14th, 2010, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wyndham

Sony already have. They announced a similar camera at the same time as Panasonic.

Do you have a link or any other information?

Simon Wyndham · April 14th, 2010, 11:50 AM

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...shown-nab.html

Craig Kovatch · April 14th, 2010, 12:22 PM

Just to clarify, the Panny will record 4:2:2 uncompressed, but ONLY via HD/SDI. Is this unit going to come a lens?

Jenn Kramer · April 14th, 2010, 06:31 PM

I heard a Pany rep say that it was going to run around $6k with a lens, but we're a long way from December, so don't start making purchase plans just yet.

April 14th, 2010, 01:14 AM	#49
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April 14th, 2010, 11:14 AM	#56
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April 13th, 2010, 11:37 AM	#46
Tom Hardwick Inner Circle Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Billericay, England UK Posts: 4,711	Good words Dan. If you've got a film inside you, shoot it NOW. If you wait for the approaching train rather than hopping on the one in the station you can find yourself waiting for ever. Getting a bit poetically romantic here, but you know what I mean. The film has far more to do with you, the person cradling the hardware, than ever it has to do with the hardware. tom.

April 13th, 2010, 07:31 PM	#47
Ed David Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 119	First the HPX370 and now this camera - Panasonic is back on top!

April 14th, 2010, 12:07 AM	#48
Craig Kovatch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hay River, Canada Posts: 85	This unit records at 24mbps long-GOP and 4:2:0. Other than a larger sensor, is this unit going to offer a whole lot more over the EX-3?

April 14th, 2010, 02:27 AM	#51
Mikel Arturo Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Barcelona, Spain Posts: 93	4:2:0? In this "Cinema" Cam? Man, 4:2:2.

April 14th, 2010, 05:21 AM	#52
Floris van Eck Major Player Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 993	I expect it to have 4:2:2 as well. Panasonic isn't stupid.

April 14th, 2010, 06:35 AM	#53
Glen Vandermolen Space Hipster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,596	I saw it at NAB and from what I was told, it can output uncompressed video through the HD/SDI port and it will have 4:2:2. A Panny rep said you can output it to a P2 deck and record directly to a P2 card. Otherwise it will hold many, many hours of compressed video on the SD cards. It looked to be about 20% larger than an HPX200, and taller, with a large carrying handle that might be detachable. And what does this camera have that the EX-3 doesn't? Lenses, lenses, lenses! Canon mount, Nikon, Olympus, PL, Zeiss - true 35mm depth of field, in a near-35mm chip. In a true video camcorder, with 2 XLR ports. This is what pretty much what everyone on this forum was begging for. I honestly didn't see this one coming, not from Panasonic. I expect Canon and Sony to fire back with similar models by next NAB. A Panny rep said the camcorder's codec was better than Canon's D-SLRs. I wonder of you can attach a B4 mount lens? Hmmm....

April 14th, 2010, 09:22 AM	#54
Thomas Smet Trustee Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,719	All the current DSLR's inlcuding the Canon 5d and 7d record 4:2:0 so this isn't anything bad. Considering the amazing stuff that has been seen from DSLR's I doubt 4:2:0 is going to be a huge issue. If this camera actually does a proper low pass filter to get good quality video from a DSLR then this is going to be huge. If you want 4:2:2 get a NanoFlash and add it to this puppy. 24 mbit AVCHD is also a much better format then 35 Mbit mpeg2 so yes the encoding quality will be better then the EX1 or EX3. AVCHD is a much better encoding technology and 24 mbit AVCHD can look like 50 mbit+ mpeg2.

April 14th, 2010, 11:50 AM	#58
Simon Wyndham Trustee Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Malvern UK Posts: 1,931	http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/digital-...shown-nab.html

April 14th, 2010, 12:22 PM	#59
Craig Kovatch Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hay River, Canada Posts: 85	Just to clarify, the Panny will record 4:2:2 uncompressed, but ONLY via HD/SDI. Is this unit going to come a lens?

April 14th, 2010, 06:31 PM	#60
Jenn Kramer Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 389 Images: 1	I heard a Pany rep say that it was going to run around $6k with a lens, but we're a long way from December, so don't start making purchase plans just yet.