HMC70

Jeff Kolada · January 12th, 2010, 03:03 PM

I will be teaching an introductory video course using a bunch of HMC70s. I have previously used some SD PV-GS250, which many functions are very similar. It would regularly happen that the students would accidentally turn on the fade function (which to this day I wonder why they keep putting this function into cameras).
Does anyone know a way to disable this fader function? All it does is cause trouble.

Thanks,
-Jeff

Chris Harding · January 12th, 2010, 05:16 PM

Hi Jeff

The HMC70 series don't have a fade button at all. The fade function is menu driven and you have to actually press the centre cursor and then select the fade icon so it's almost impossible to "accidently" fade. The fade function, if the operator has turned it on, is auto-cancelled when the camera is turned off and is also turned off after recording!! It's highly unlikely that someone might turn it on!!

Chris

Robert M Wright · January 12th, 2010, 06:27 PM

I guess it won't be a course that focuses on manual focusing (couldn't resist the pun).

Jeff Kolada · January 13th, 2010, 12:32 PM

Chris, you underestimate beginners. I'm on your side where I know it's difficult to do and i don't think it would happen, but almost every time at least one persons footage comes back with fades in and out and none of the students understand what they did to do it.

And Robert.... well.... let's just say it was not my choice what cameras were purchased, and the lack of a focus ring was overlooked. We quickly figured that out and well, i guess we're going to have to teach the fundamentals of focusing with the stupid button controlled manual focus.

Chris Harding · January 13th, 2010, 10:13 PM

Hi Jeff

Yeah, I guess they do "fiddle" with menu settings and as you say some will kick in the fade which people don't use anymore. You will probably have to make sure they don't leave the OIS on while using the camera on a tripod either or kickin the backlighting. Luckily the HMC70 doesn't have a lot of gimmick controls, otherwise you might have a nightmare!!

I agree that Panasonic should have added a focus ring!! My old cameras were DVC-20's and you switch to manual and use the ring...simple and easy!!! however the audio setup is rather nice and the manual bit IS manual!! Just for interest the auto setting on the audio section has much better circuitry and just sets an initial level for you with an 8db overload as well. You can actually shoot in auto and there is none of that awful old AGC "pumping" when the ambient level drops!! Nevertheless the cameras are nice to use with quite a decent EVF and you can use the cursor controls even while using the EVF too.

Chris

January 12th, 2010, 03:03 PM	#1
Jeff Kolada Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 78	HMC70 - Disbale Fade Function? I will be teaching an introductory video course using a bunch of HMC70s. I have previously used some SD PV-GS250, which many functions are very similar. It would regularly happen that the students would accidentally turn on the fade function (which to this day I wonder why they keep putting this function into cameras). Does anyone know a way to disable this fader function? All it does is cause trouble. Thanks, -Jeff __________________ Jeff Kolada http://www.jeffkolada.com

January 13th, 2010, 12:32 PM	#4
Jeff Kolada Regular Crew Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 78	Chris, you underestimate beginners. I'm on your side where I know it's difficult to do and i don't think it would happen, but almost every time at least one persons footage comes back with fades in and out and none of the students understand what they did to do it. And Robert.... well.... let's just say it was not my choice what cameras were purchased, and the lack of a focus ring was overlooked. We quickly figured that out and well, i guess we're going to have to teach the fundamentals of focusing with the stupid button controlled manual focus. __________________ Jeff Kolada http://www.jeffkolada.com

January 12th, 2010, 05:16 PM	#2
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Jeff The HMC70 series don't have a fade button at all. The fade function is menu driven and you have to actually press the centre cursor and then select the fade icon so it's almost impossible to "accidently" fade. The fade function, if the operator has turned it on, is auto-cancelled when the camera is turned off and is also turned off after recording!! It's highly unlikely that someone might turn it on!! Chris

January 12th, 2010, 06:27 PM	#3
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I guess it won't be a course that focuses on manual focusing (couldn't resist the pun).

January 13th, 2010, 10:13 PM	#5
Chris Harding Inner Circle Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 8,441	Hi Jeff Yeah, I guess they do "fiddle" with menu settings and as you say some will kick in the fade which people don't use anymore. You will probably have to make sure they don't leave the OIS on while using the camera on a tripod either or kickin the backlighting. Luckily the HMC70 doesn't have a lot of gimmick controls, otherwise you might have a nightmare!! I agree that Panasonic should have added a focus ring!! My old cameras were DVC-20's and you switch to manual and use the ring...simple and easy!!! however the audio setup is rather nice and the manual bit IS manual!! Just for interest the auto setting on the audio section has much better circuitry and just sets an initial level for you with an 8db overload as well. You can actually shoot in auto and there is none of that awful old AGC "pumping" when the ambient level drops!! Nevertheless the cameras are nice to use with quite a decent EVF and you can use the cursor controls even while using the EVF too. Chris