Will long form (ie weddings, speaches) have glitches? at DVinfo.net

Mike Petrucco · March 25th, 2009, 04:35 AM

I was doing some reading over on the other forum and found some discussion on this. It looks like since the HMC uses FAT32, it has a maximum 4GB file size, so if you are recording in PH, and your clip is longer than ~21 minutes, you have a separate file for each 4 GB segment. When you place these on the timeline, they are saying that there will be a glitch at each break. A user there put together a tool to join them without the "glitch", and you can do it in terminal on a mac.

Have any of you encountered this? I am going to have to do some testing on it to see for myself.

Mark Von Lanken · March 25th, 2009, 07:53 AM

Hi Mike,

I have experienced it as well at the 4 gb mark. If I remember correctly, there was about 15 frames missing. When you use the rejoin patch, they come back. What a relief. I'm not sure how it works, I'm just glad it does.

Yang Wen · March 25th, 2009, 08:13 AM

Panasonic needs to come out with a new firmware that automatically links the disjointed segments to one proxy file on the SD card... such that when work with the proxy file, you are totally removed from needing to be aware that there are disjointed segments..

Mark Von Lanken · March 25th, 2009, 08:17 AM

Hi Yang,

I agree.

Tom Alexander · March 25th, 2009, 11:15 AM

In the mean time, here's a tool that will join the clips seamlessly.

.mts clip join tool

Brendon Costello · March 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM

What if the clips are played directly from the camera? Do they still glitch?

Tom Alexander · March 25th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brendon Costello

What if the clips are played directly from the camera? Do they still glitch?

No, it shouldn't happen there. My understanding is that the "glitch" happens as a result of the NLE's not putting the clips together properly. There is no actual problem with the clips themselves.

Abraham Texidor Sr. · March 26th, 2009, 05:49 PM

This mts clip join tool worked like a charm.

Thank you very much!!

Brendon Costello · March 27th, 2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Alexander

No, it shouldn't happen there. My understanding is that the "glitch" happens as a result of the NLE's not putting the clips together properly. There is no actual problem with the clips themselves.

That's good, because a lot of my business involves simply exporting from my cam to a miniDV tape.

March 25th, 2009, 04:35 AM	#1
Mike Petrucco Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 98	Will long form (ie weddings, speaches) have glitches? I was doing some reading over on the other forum and found some discussion on this. It looks like since the HMC uses FAT32, it has a maximum 4GB file size, so if you are recording in PH, and your clip is longer than ~21 minutes, you have a separate file for each 4 GB segment. When you place these on the timeline, they are saying that there will be a glitch at each break. A user there put together a tool to join them without the "glitch", and you can do it in terminal on a mac. Have any of you encountered this? I am going to have to do some testing on it to see for myself.

March 25th, 2009, 07:53 AM	#2
Mark Von Lanken Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 910	Hi Mike, I have experienced it as well at the 4 gb mark. If I remember correctly, there was about 15 frames missing. When you use the rejoin patch, they come back. What a relief. I'm not sure how it works, I'm just glad it does. __________________ Mark Von Lanken www.VonWeddingFilms.com

March 25th, 2009, 08:17 AM	#4
Mark Von Lanken Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 910	Hi Yang, I agree. __________________ Mark Von Lanken www.VonWeddingFilms.com

March 26th, 2009, 05:49 PM	#8
Abraham Texidor Sr. Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Meriden CT Posts: 49	Oh yeah!! This mts clip join tool worked like a charm. Thank you very much!!

March 25th, 2009, 08:13 AM	#3
Yang Wen Major Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 991	Panasonic needs to come out with a new firmware that automatically links the disjointed segments to one proxy file on the SD card... such that when work with the proxy file, you are totally removed from needing to be aware that there are disjointed segments..

March 25th, 2009, 11:15 AM	#5
Tom Alexander Regular Crew Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ontario, Ca. Posts: 121	In the mean time, here's a tool that will join the clips seamlessly. .mts clip join tool

March 25th, 2009, 09:48 PM	#6
Brendon Costello New Boot Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Somers Point, NJ Posts: 16	What if the clips are played directly from the camera? Do they still glitch?