Upgrade RAm or upgrade processor? at DVinfo.net

Kurt Copeland · July 4th, 2007, 01:37 PM

I have a Mac Intel Solo 1.5 Ghz with 512 RAM and I want to start doing more NLE.

I can...

1. Upgrade the RAM to 2 Gig on my existing 1.5 Ghz, or

2. Purchase a new Dual core with a 1.83 Mhz processor and 20 Gig more hard drive, along with more RAM.

3. Purchase a comparable PC system and use it just for NLE.

Relative to most of you guys, I am a rank amateur. (I did a semester in college for broadcasting and I have done a few short pieces for podcasts and you-tube projects...yep, that is my *ahem* film-career dossier, so to speak.)

Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Jeff Anselmo · July 4th, 2007, 02:40 PM

Hi Kurt--

Since you're coming from this, as you say, from an amatuer's standpoint, you've gotta ask yourself a few things: 1) is this just a hobby or is it going to blow up into a full business; 2) how much money can you invest in hardware and software? Of course, there are a million other variables to consider.

We've been in the production business for less than a year. We had a small budget to begin with, spending most on video & audio gear. I already had a "good" PC (not dual core, but with 3.2ghz with hyper threading, 2g of ram & 500g of hdd space), and bought Adobe's Production Studio as our nle. So far it's been working great for us.

With that said, I would pick an nle that you're used to and comfortable in using. Most of today's nle's have a trial period that you can use. Unfortunately, some nle's will require some hardware requirement that you may not have.

And don't worry about the amateur tag; I'm still learning how to upload video for our website :)

Good luck,

--JA

Glenn Chan · July 4th, 2007, 02:51 PM

For cuts and dissolves, your Mac will work fine for DV. (You can even use a less powerful system... like a dual processor 500mhz G4.)

I wouldn't bother upgrading the system though... you'd likely be better off waiting a little and getting a new CPU (which usually means a new computer, because your old one gets obsolete and not upgradeable). Though RAM-wise FCP would likely benefit from a little more RAM... check the system recommendations.

You can cut stuff on a DP500mhz G4, so I wouldn't sweat it that much.

Kurt Copeland · July 4th, 2007, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Anselmo

Hi Kurt--

Since you're coming from this, as you say, from an amatuer's standpoint, you've gotta ask yourself a few things: 1) is this just a hobby or is it going to blow up into a full business; 2) how much money can you invest in hardware and software?

Thanks for the response!

1. I do not see this becoming a career but I do love it as a great hobby!

2. It would cost me about $400 all told to upgrade my Mac from 512 Mg to 2Gig. It would cost about $1200.00 to get the new 1.83 Ghz Dual Core dual processor with 2 Gig bu then I could turn around and sell the old 1.5 Ghz single core for a couple hundred. Net difference of $600.00 between upgrading RAM in my old CPU and buying an upgraded CPU.

Just when I think I'm leaning towards the memory upgrade, I start thinking "Well, THIS computer IS a couple years old!"

: )

I should probably stick with the memory upgrade.

Thanks!

John Miller · July 4th, 2007, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kurt Copeland

I should probably stick with the memory upgrade.

Good idea - that way you can get to play with your existing computer with more memory to see how it is. If you decide you want to change the computer as a result, you can use the memory in a new computer (as long as they use the same type - e.g., DDR or DDR2). Since Intel Macs and PCs are basically the same as far as hardware goes, you could probably use the memory in a PC, too - if you end up going that route.

I'm somewhat baffled by the cost, though - $400 to go from 512MB to 2GB. On my PC, I got 2GB for $120 a couple of months ago. You may want to investigate non-Apple options for RAM.

Kurt Copeland · July 4th, 2007, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John F Miller

Good idea - that way you can get to play with your existing computer with more memory to see how it is. If you decide you want to change the computer as a result, you can use the memory in a new computer (as long as they use the same type - e.g., DDR or DDR2). Since Intel Macs and PCs are basically the same as far as hardware goes, you could probably use the memory in a PC, too - if you end up going that route.

I'm somewhat baffled by the cost, though - $400 to go from 512MB to 2GB. On my PC, I got 2GB for $120 a couple of months ago. You may want to investigate non-Apple options for RAM.

Yep. funny story. I bought a Mac solo mini. Its case cannot be opened by the consumer without voiding the warranty. It "HAS" to be brought into the store to have the memory switched out.

Yep.

Can anyone suggest alternatives?

Anyone got the "special tool" they use to open those cases?

Bill Koehler · July 7th, 2007, 12:21 PM

If it's a couple of years old, is it in fact still under warranty?

At $400 for the upgrade, you are paying a big premium for an upgrade vs. upgrading the machine.

This link may be of interest to you:
It is at Crucials website - The store front for Micron, North Americas largest memory manufactorer & vendor.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...2D+1%2E5GHz%29

July 4th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#1
Kurt Copeland New Boot Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Carrollton, Texas Posts: 7	Upgrade RAm or upgrade processor? I have a Mac Intel Solo 1.5 Ghz with 512 RAM and I want to start doing more NLE. I can... 1. Upgrade the RAM to 2 Gig on my existing 1.5 Ghz, or 2. Purchase a new Dual core with a 1.83 Mhz processor and 20 Gig more hard drive, along with more RAM. 3. Purchase a comparable PC system and use it just for NLE. Relative to most of you guys, I am a rank amateur. (I did a semester in college for broadcasting and I have done a few short pieces for podcasts and you-tube projects...yep, that is my ahem film-career dossier, so to speak.) Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

July 4th, 2007, 02:40 PM	#2
Jeff Anselmo Major Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Mexico Posts: 566	Hi Kurt-- Since you're coming from this, as you say, from an amatuer's standpoint, you've gotta ask yourself a few things: 1) is this just a hobby or is it going to blow up into a full business; 2) how much money can you invest in hardware and software? Of course, there are a million other variables to consider. We've been in the production business for less than a year. We had a small budget to begin with, spending most on video & audio gear. I already had a "good" PC (not dual core, but with 3.2ghz with hyper threading, 2g of ram & 500g of hdd space), and bought Adobe's Production Studio as our nle. So far it's been working great for us. With that said, I would pick an nle that you're used to and comfortable in using. Most of today's nle's have a trial period that you can use. Unfortunately, some nle's will require some hardware requirement that you may not have. And don't worry about the amateur tag; I'm still learning how to upload video for our website :) Good luck, --JA

July 4th, 2007, 02:51 PM	#3
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	For cuts and dissolves, your Mac will work fine for DV. (You can even use a less powerful system... like a dual processor 500mhz G4.) I wouldn't bother upgrading the system though... you'd likely be better off waiting a little and getting a new CPU (which usually means a new computer, because your old one gets obsolete and not upgradeable). Though RAM-wise FCP would likely benefit from a little more RAM... check the system recommendations. You can cut stuff on a DP500mhz G4, so I wouldn't sweat it that much.

July 7th, 2007, 12:21 PM	#7
Bill Koehler Major Player Join Date: May 2007 Location: Alpharetta, Georgia, USA Posts: 760	If it's a couple of years old, is it in fact still under warranty? At $400 for the upgrade, you are paying a big premium for an upgrade vs. upgrading the machine. This link may be of interest to you: It is at Crucials website - The store front for Micron, North Americas largest memory manufactorer & vendor. http://www.crucial.com/store/listpar...2D+1%2E5GHz%29