Better color rendition in 24P? at DVinfo.net

Jim Sofranko · January 26th, 2007, 09:13 AM

I've been working recently with some students who claim that the look of 24p includes a better color rendition. Has anyone else ever observed this as a general rule of thumb??

Shane Ross · January 26th, 2007, 04:48 PM

Students don't know SQUAT. They are in school to learn. They might THINK they know, but...they don't. (lol)

Better color rendition? DOn't see how. The color space is the same whether you are working 24p or 30i. If you shot both format with the same camera (DVX100a for example) then you'd see no difference. However, if they are talking about from different cameras, one camera might have superior electronics that account for this.

Or they might be struck by the filmic look of 24p and be influenced by that look. I know I am.

But, as a general rule of thumb, no, the color rendition isn't superior.

Jim Sofranko · January 26th, 2007, 06:41 PM

That was my reply but I was outnumbered. They insisted...and I suggested it may be illusional because of the motion blur or maybe they looked brighter on some displays.

Glenn Chan · January 27th, 2007, 09:33 PM

The 24p scene file on the DVX100 changes some camera settings (color-related) compared to the normal scene file. So in that sense, the 24p scene file does affect things.

24p cameras also tend to have interesting colors as they are sort of designed for filmish-looking footage. The DVX and HVX for example have their own aesthetic that's slightly different than other cameras, as does the Varicam. Maybe??

Jim Sofranko · January 27th, 2007, 09:51 PM

I presume you mean the default settings. That's an interesting possibility.

Are the default settings from the non-24p scene files different from the default 24p settings?

January 26th, 2007, 09:13 AM	#1
Jim Sofranko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Shokan, NY Posts: 217	Better color rendition in 24P? I've been working recently with some students who claim that the look of 24p includes a better color rendition. Has anyone else ever observed this as a general rule of thumb??

January 26th, 2007, 04:48 PM	#2
Shane Ross Major Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Los Angeles, USA Posts: 539	Students don't know SQUAT. They are in school to learn. They might THINK they know, but...they don't. (lol) Better color rendition? DOn't see how. The color space is the same whether you are working 24p or 30i. If you shot both format with the same camera (DVX100a for example) then you'd see no difference. However, if they are talking about from different cameras, one camera might have superior electronics that account for this. Or they might be struck by the filmic look of 24p and be influenced by that look. I know I am. But, as a general rule of thumb, no, the color rendition isn't superior.

January 26th, 2007, 06:41 PM	#3
Jim Sofranko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Shokan, NY Posts: 217	That was my reply but I was outnumbered. They insisted...and I suggested it may be illusional because of the motion blur or maybe they looked brighter on some displays.

January 27th, 2007, 09:33 PM	#4
Glenn Chan Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 4,750	The 24p scene file on the DVX100 changes some camera settings (color-related) compared to the normal scene file. So in that sense, the 24p scene file does affect things. 24p cameras also tend to have interesting colors as they are sort of designed for filmish-looking footage. The DVX and HVX for example have their own aesthetic that's slightly different than other cameras, as does the Varicam. Maybe??

January 27th, 2007, 09:51 PM	#5
Jim Sofranko Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Shokan, NY Posts: 217	I presume you mean the default settings. That's an interesting possibility. Are the default settings from the non-24p scene files different from the default 24p settings?