Recording onto Mini-DV from post. at DVinfo.net

Gilbert Xiong · March 3rd, 2003, 12:54 PM

My original footage was taped on my GL2 then captured onto the PC for editing. Now when I want to put it back onto MinDV tape, should I record using the GL2 again or use the Beater JVC GR-DVP3?

David Mintzer · March 3rd, 2003, 12:55 PM

I am not familiar with the JVC but if its DV it doesn't really matter----DV is DV.

Gilbert Xiong · March 3rd, 2003, 12:57 PM

So the quality being recorded onto the JVC will still be from the GL2 then? There won't be a loss right?

David Mintzer · March 3rd, 2003, 05:57 PM

no loss at all---unless you have dirty heads or something--

Gilbert Xiong · March 4th, 2003, 07:52 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by David Mintzer : no loss at all---unless you have dirty heads or something-- -->>>

Thanks! That's exactly what I expected.

Guy Pringle · March 6th, 2003, 09:05 AM

I don't know the JVC either, but I was in a similar situation. Post house had the Sony 1500 (I think). Later, couldn't play back from my camera. Found out the 1500 could only record in DVCAM mode, so check the JVC too.

Bill Pryor · March 7th, 2003, 07:35 PM

The JVC is only DV.
I think it's a better idea to output your master to a deck rather than your camera. There have been quite a few incidents in which the person shot his footage, loaded it with the camera that shot it, then made his master to the same camera, and then took the tape to a dub house, and it wouldn't play on a professional deck. The reason--his camera's heads were out of alignment. I personally know of 3 cameras that have caused trouble in this manner. In one case, the guy shot an entire production in France. Then he somehow discovered that his heads were out of alignment, and he sent his camera in for repair. Not a good idea until the tapes were dubbed. But he didn't know better. Of course, what happened was when he got the camera back, now all adjusted to spec, it wouldn't play the tapes it had shot when it was out of adjustment. Nobody else's deck would play them either, even the high end DSR1800 and 2000, which will play most things even if they are a little out of tolerance. His heads had been way out.

So, if you have a deck and take a tape from your camera and play it in the deck and it won't play properly, then you know you have a camera problem and you will know it before it's too late. Then you can clone the tapes via firewire from the errant camera to the deck and then get your camera fixed.

Now, not to be alarmist or anything...but I know a person who bought a used DV deck and has made all these master tapes...and then found that the dub house couldn't play them. Turns out the DECK was out of alignment.

This is one reason professional decks and cameras cost what they do. So, unless you can afford those high end things, it's a good idea to cover your tracks whenever you can. Check your camera occasionally by trying to play a tape you've shot in somebody else's camera or deck.

March 3rd, 2003, 12:54 PM	#1
Gilbert Xiong Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 29	Recording onto Mini-DV from post. My original footage was taped on my GL2 then captured onto the PC for editing. Now when I want to put it back onto MinDV tape, should I record using the GL2 again or use the Beater JVC GR-DVP3?

March 6th, 2003, 09:05 AM	#6
Guy Pringle Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 82	I don't know the JVC either, but I was in a similar situation. Post house had the Sony 1500 (I think). Later, couldn't play back from my camera. Found out the 1500 could only record in DVCAM mode, so check the JVC too. __________________ Amacitia Reddit Honores (Friendship Brings Honour) Guy Pringle Silver Reflections guypringle@yahoo.com +27(0)83 256 8566

March 3rd, 2003, 12:55 PM	#2
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	I am not familiar with the JVC but if its DV it doesn't really matter----DV is DV.

March 3rd, 2003, 12:57 PM	#3
Gilbert Xiong Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 29	So the quality being recorded onto the JVC will still be from the GL2 then? There won't be a loss right?

March 3rd, 2003, 05:57 PM	#4
David Mintzer Rextilleon Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pleasantville, NY Posts: 520	no loss at all---unless you have dirty heads or something--

March 4th, 2003, 07:52 AM	#5
Gilbert Xiong Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chicago, Illinois Posts: 29	<<<-- Originally posted by David Mintzer : no loss at all---unless you have dirty heads or something-- -->>> Thanks! That's exactly what I expected.

March 7th, 2003, 07:35 PM	#7
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	The JVC is only DV. I think it's a better idea to output your master to a deck rather than your camera. There have been quite a few incidents in which the person shot his footage, loaded it with the camera that shot it, then made his master to the same camera, and then took the tape to a dub house, and it wouldn't play on a professional deck. The reason--his camera's heads were out of alignment. I personally know of 3 cameras that have caused trouble in this manner. In one case, the guy shot an entire production in France. Then he somehow discovered that his heads were out of alignment, and he sent his camera in for repair. Not a good idea until the tapes were dubbed. But he didn't know better. Of course, what happened was when he got the camera back, now all adjusted to spec, it wouldn't play the tapes it had shot when it was out of adjustment. Nobody else's deck would play them either, even the high end DSR1800 and 2000, which will play most things even if they are a little out of tolerance. His heads had been way out. So, if you have a deck and take a tape from your camera and play it in the deck and it won't play properly, then you know you have a camera problem and you will know it before it's too late. Then you can clone the tapes via firewire from the errant camera to the deck and then get your camera fixed. Now, not to be alarmist or anything...but I know a person who bought a used DV deck and has made all these master tapes...and then found that the dub house couldn't play them. Turns out the DECK was out of alignment. This is one reason professional decks and cameras cost what they do. So, unless you can afford those high end things, it's a good idea to cover your tracks whenever you can. Check your camera occasionally by trying to play a tape you've shot in somebody else's camera or deck.