What filters or lighting was used in this video... at DVinfo.net

January 4th, 2003, 08:00 PM

I like the tone of it...

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Doug Quance · January 4th, 2003, 10:14 PM

I'll let others who know much more than me comment on the "how".

I'll, instead, comment on the "wow".

Killer piece. I like the whole thing. It has a style, and a good flow. The lighting was exceptional, and the post production was obviously big time.

Thanks for posting it!

John Locke · January 4th, 2003, 11:01 PM

Can't view it on my Mac, unfortunately.

Frank Granovski · January 4th, 2003, 11:05 PM

Tiffen's Black Pro Mist?

January 4th, 2003, 11:11 PM

<<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : Can't view it on my Mac, unfortunately. -->>>

Got Real Audio?

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John Locke · January 4th, 2003, 11:13 PM

Hi Ryan,

I'm one of those types that refuses to even load Real Audio into my computer. So looks like I'm out of luck until the Mac version of Media Player is updated to take care of all the bugs that have cropped up recently. Used to be that I could view any Windows Media file...but those were the old days.

I'll see if I can check out the links at my office computer.

January 4th, 2003, 11:21 PM

Sorry I wish they had a mov.

Jeff Donald · January 4th, 2003, 11:26 PM

I've got Real Media and it still doesn't work. Their site says I need to use Internet Explorer 5xx or better. I'm using 5.2.2, which is the latest for Mac. Their site just isn't Mac friendly.

Jeff

Alex Taylor · January 5th, 2003, 12:11 AM

To me it looks like it was mostly colour correction, lots of blues and greens.

Ken Tanaka · January 5th, 2003, 12:13 AM

I took a look at it from my Dell notebook. It looks to me like most of the video's "look" was achieved in post-production rather than in production. The visual effects seem to be all animations or composites of one kind or another. I think that the dark visual appearance of the live footage was done with a variety of color correction techniques, with gamma manipulation seeming to be the lead effect.

Just my guesses. It's very hard to tell much else from viewing that version.

James Emory · January 5th, 2003, 12:53 AM

After a couple of views, it almost looks like solarization or posterization effects. But, how did they keep the skin tones from being affected? Maybe only the dark colors are affected by the values of these supposed effects. Pay close attention to any reflective surfaces like the guitar faces and you can see the grain of the supposed effects stated above. Who knows?

January 5th, 2003, 01:10 AM

Thats what i thought, BUT the skin tones are what got me confused...

Maby they edited frame by frame?

Tim Joseph · January 9th, 2003, 06:47 PM

probably lit the background with the filters instead of putting it on the camera. Might have lit them with something too. Its a great look. One I'd love to use someday. I love how everyone has a different theory and none of us could be right. Thats why I love this business!! Hundreds of ways to do one thing!

Rick Spilman · January 9th, 2003, 06:56 PM

I agree. Almost always easier to use lighting & gels than filters or mess with it in post.

Adrian Seah · January 9th, 2003, 07:19 PM

Hmmm... unless you know otherwise, I think it was shot with film. This is because of the slo-mo on a number of shots, video just cannot be slowed down like that, and still remain sharp. Unless of course they got a variable frame rate HD cam. In any case, film is more likely.

Just my opinion

January 4th, 2003, 08:00 PM	#1
Ryan Jaeger Posts: n/a	What filters or lighting was used in this video... I like the tone of it... Windows Media Player... broadband: http://www.dreamworksrecords.com/med...ngels_high.asx Weakband: http://www.dreamworksrecords.com/med...angels_low.asx

January 4th, 2003, 10:14 PM	#2
Doug Quance Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 138	I'll let others who know much more than me comment on the "how". I'll, instead, comment on the "wow". Killer piece. I like the whole thing. It has a style, and a good flow. The lighting was exceptional, and the post production was obviously big time. Thanks for posting it! __________________ If you're not the lead dog... the scenery never changes

January 4th, 2003, 11:01 PM	#3
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Can't view it on my Mac, unfortunately. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

January 4th, 2003, 11:13 PM	#6
John Locke Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Austin, TX USA Posts: 2,882	Hi Ryan, I'm one of those types that refuses to even load Real Audio into my computer. So looks like I'm out of luck until the Mac version of Media Player is updated to take care of all the bugs that have cropped up recently. Used to be that I could view any Windows Media file...but those were the old days. I'll see if I can check out the links at my office computer. __________________ John Locke SursumFilms.com

January 5th, 2003, 12:11 AM	#9
Alex Taylor Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 390	To me it looks like it was mostly colour correction, lots of blues and greens. __________________ alextaylor.org

January 4th, 2003, 11:05 PM	#4
Frank Granovski Outer Circle Join Date: May 2002 Location: Hope, BC Posts: 7,524	Tiffen's Black Pro Mist?

January 4th, 2003, 11:11 PM	#5
Ryan Jaeger Posts: n/a	<<<-- Originally posted by John Locke : Can't view it on my Mac, unfortunately. -->>> Got Real Audio? Highband: http://www.dreamworksrecords.com/med...ngels_high.ram Slowband: http://www.dreamworksrecords.com/med...angels_low.ram Sorry I forgot about the MACians...

January 4th, 2003, 11:21 PM	#7
Ryan Jaeger Posts: n/a	Sorry I wish they had a mov.

January 4th, 2003, 11:26 PM	#8
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I've got Real Media and it still doesn't work. Their site says I need to use Internet Explorer 5xx or better. I'm using 5.2.2, which is the latest for Mac. Their site just isn't Mac friendly. Jeff

January 5th, 2003, 12:13 AM	#10
Ken Tanaka Retired DV Info Net Almunus Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,943	I took a look at it from my Dell notebook. It looks to me like most of the video's "look" was achieved in post-production rather than in production. The visual effects seem to be all animations or composites of one kind or another. I think that the dark visual appearance of the live footage was done with a variety of color correction techniques, with gamma manipulation seeming to be the lead effect. Just my guesses. It's very hard to tell much else from viewing that version. __________________ Lady X Films: A lady with a boring wardrobe...and a global mission. Hey, you don't have enough stuff! Buy with confidence from our sponsors. Hand-picked as the best in the business...Really! See some of my work one frame at a time: www.KenTanaka.com

January 5th, 2003, 12:53 AM	#11
James Emory Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Atlanta, Georgia Posts: 1,892	Effects / Filters After a couple of views, it almost looks like solarization or posterization effects. But, how did they keep the skin tones from being affected? Maybe only the dark colors are affected by the values of these supposed effects. Pay close attention to any reflective surfaces like the guitar faces and you can see the grain of the supposed effects stated above. Who knows?

January 5th, 2003, 01:10 AM	#12
Ryan Jaeger Posts: n/a	Thats what i thought, BUT the skin tones are what got me confused... Maby they edited frame by frame?

January 9th, 2003, 06:47 PM	#13
Tim Joseph Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 35	probably lit the background with the filters instead of putting it on the camera. Might have lit them with something too. Its a great look. One I'd love to use someday. I love how everyone has a different theory and none of us could be right. Thats why I love this business!! Hundreds of ways to do one thing! __________________ =================== Scheezo Have Camera, Will Travel-

January 9th, 2003, 06:56 PM	#14
Rick Spilman Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Jersey City, NJ Posts: 366	I agree. Almost always easier to use lighting & gels than filters or mess with it in post.

January 9th, 2003, 07:19 PM	#15
Adrian Seah Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 87	Hmmm... unless you know otherwise, I think it was shot with film. This is because of the slo-mo on a number of shots, video just cannot be slowed down like that, and still remain sharp. Unless of course they got a variable frame rate HD cam. In any case, film is more likely. Just my opinion