Question about shooting news documentary style in this case.

Pete Cofrancesco · June 28th, 2020, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson

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They spotted that Ryan was previously Ironpony, and they mentioned he'd posted the same things before.

Because of his limitation I can't see him having success in filmakng or to following anybody’s advice. Maybe it's enough that he has something that occupies his time that he enjoys doing... I'll just have limit my responses to encouragement and leave it at that. Knowing what I know now I feel like I've wasted a lot of time

Josh Bass · June 28th, 2020, 09:54 PM

Sad but probably true. He wasnt bad as an actor from the pig sitcom. Maybe potential there...work on movies AND be told exactly what to do and how to do it.

Ryan Elder · June 28th, 2020, 10:10 PM

Well I think now that covid is starting to die down, I will try another shot at making a feature film maybe. I mean I was told before that I need better actors and a better DP and crew to pull off a much better product, so I will use my money and get those things, and hope it pays off and that the next product is much better as a result.

Sorry, I didn't mean to make anyone feel that the advice was a waste at all! I have received plenty of great advice on here, and I really appreciate it! Thank you everyone, for all the great advice. I am going to take the advice on here, and try to apply it the next project, and hope it turns out well.

Josh Bass · June 28th, 2020, 10:56 PM

Covid starting to die down you say? We're just gettin into our groove in Texas. Make room, Ryan. Daddy's movin' in.

Ryan Elder · June 28th, 2020, 10:59 PM

When you say make room, what do you mean by that?

Josh Bass · June 28th, 2020, 11:03 PM

Sorry friend. It was a dumb joke. I was saying that since you're saying Canada's about to be Covid-free and here in Texas we're just ramping up (AGAIN), I was going to move in with you.

Ryan Elder · June 28th, 2020, 11:04 PM

Oh, sorry for not understanding. Yeah it's too bad how covid has not calmed down as much in other places, for sure.

Brian Drysdale · June 29th, 2020, 12:40 AM

The film and TV industries are slowly beginning to start moving again, however, there are about 50 pages of guidelines for doing so. Just because Covid-19 has quietened down, doesn't mean that it has gone and there's a real risk of the so called 2nd wave come the flu season.

I don't know about your state, but British Columbia has published guidelines; https://deadline.com/2020/06/the-fla...ne-1202969995/

If you're going to make a film, go and do.it at an appropriate time. However, if you haven't found out how by this stage, with the endless threads running over at least 7 years on forums, the odds aren't that good.

Ryan Elder · June 29th, 2020, 12:57 AM

Yeah I will have to wait for some more things in the pandemic to be lifted, I am just saying I am going to go for it. Or maybe if it keeps up I will have to attempt to do it somewhere else...

I mean I could try to cheat and just have a couple of actors to shoot half of a scene, then bring in another few to shoot the other half, but I really prefer to have my master shots, where everyone is playing off each other in the scene, for safety.

Brian Drysdale · June 29th, 2020, 01:12 AM

Please download a set of guidelines and make your plans from there.

Personal preferences may not work out in the current situation, plus the shooting schedule is likely to be longer.

Ryan Elder · June 29th, 2020, 01:17 AM

Oh okay, why is the shooting schedule likely to be longer though? The guidelines don't say anything about having to spread out your events longer.

Josh Bass · June 29th, 2020, 01:26 AM

It's not about directly spreading the schedule out...it's all the extra hoops with masks, handwashing, maintaining distance, etc etc etc. All of this will slow down the process as you add extra seconds and minutes to each little thing you do all day, over a 10/12 etc hour period. Think about how much crap people touch every day and how close they normally are on set...now realize all of that has to change.

Ryan Elder · June 29th, 2020, 01:33 AM

Oh okay I see. Well if I have to, I could postpone if I have to then. I'm trying to make my shoots faster than before, to save money and time.

Brian Drysdale · June 29th, 2020, 02:05 AM

Given your films to date, I would concentrate on improving the quality of your films, rather than shooting faster.

Ryan Elder · June 29th, 2020, 03:25 AM

Oh okay, but one of the things I have to improve in the shoots is getting the schedule faster. Or I could stick to the same type of schedule I have been doing, but I don't want to be slowed down too much though by covid, and may need to wait then, if that's the case.

Of course I will try to improve the quality as well.

June 28th, 2020, 09:54 PM	#32
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Sad but probably true. He wasnt bad as an actor from the pig sitcom. Maybe potential there...work on movies AND be told exactly what to do and how to do it. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 28th, 2020, 10:10 PM	#33
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Well I think now that covid is starting to die down, I will try another shot at making a feature film maybe. I mean I was told before that I need better actors and a better DP and crew to pull off a much better product, so I will use my money and get those things, and hope it pays off and that the next product is much better as a result. Sorry, I didn't mean to make anyone feel that the advice was a waste at all! I have received plenty of great advice on here, and I really appreciate it! Thank you everyone, for all the great advice. I am going to take the advice on here, and try to apply it the next project, and hope it turns out well. Last edited by Ryan Elder; June 28th, 2020 at 10:49 PM.

June 28th, 2020, 10:56 PM	#34
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Covid starting to die down you say? We're just gettin into our groove in Texas. Make room, Ryan. Daddy's movin' in. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 28th, 2020, 10:59 PM	#35
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. When you say make room, what do you mean by that?

June 28th, 2020, 11:03 PM	#36
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Sorry friend. It was a dumb joke. I was saying that since you're saying Canada's about to be Covid-free and here in Texas we're just ramping up (AGAIN), I was going to move in with you. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 28th, 2020, 11:04 PM	#37
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Oh, sorry for not understanding. Yeah it's too bad how covid has not calmed down as much in other places, for sure.

June 29th, 2020, 12:40 AM	#38
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. The film and TV industries are slowly beginning to start moving again, however, there are about 50 pages of guidelines for doing so. Just because Covid-19 has quietened down, doesn't mean that it has gone and there's a real risk of the so called 2nd wave come the flu season. I don't know about your state, but British Columbia has published guidelines; https://deadline.com/2020/06/the-fla...ne-1202969995/ If you're going to make a film, go and do.it at an appropriate time. However, if you haven't found out how by this stage, with the endless threads running over at least 7 years on forums, the odds aren't that good.

June 29th, 2020, 12:57 AM	#39
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Yeah I will have to wait for some more things in the pandemic to be lifted, I am just saying I am going to go for it. Or maybe if it keeps up I will have to attempt to do it somewhere else... I mean I could try to cheat and just have a couple of actors to shoot half of a scene, then bring in another few to shoot the other half, but I really prefer to have my master shots, where everyone is playing off each other in the scene, for safety.

June 29th, 2020, 01:12 AM	#40
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Please download a set of guidelines and make your plans from there. Personal preferences may not work out in the current situation, plus the shooting schedule is likely to be longer.

June 29th, 2020, 01:17 AM	#41
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Oh okay, why is the shooting schedule likely to be longer though? The guidelines don't say anything about having to spread out your events longer.

June 29th, 2020, 01:26 AM	#42
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. It's not about directly spreading the schedule out...it's all the extra hoops with masks, handwashing, maintaining distance, etc etc etc. All of this will slow down the process as you add extra seconds and minutes to each little thing you do all day, over a 10/12 etc hour period. Think about how much crap people touch every day and how close they normally are on set...now realize all of that has to change. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

June 29th, 2020, 01:33 AM	#43
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Oh okay I see. Well if I have to, I could postpone if I have to then. I'm trying to make my shoots faster than before, to save money and time.

June 29th, 2020, 02:05 AM	#44
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Given your films to date, I would concentrate on improving the quality of your films, rather than shooting faster.

June 29th, 2020, 03:25 AM	#45
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Question about shooting news documentary style in this case. Oh okay, but one of the things I have to improve in the shoots is getting the schedule faster. Or I could stick to the same type of schedule I have been doing, but I don't want to be slowed down too much though by covid, and may need to wait then, if that's the case. Of course I will try to improve the quality as well.