Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera?

Ryan Elder · October 25th, 2019, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul R Johnson

In a way, the only killer would be noise in the blacks. It's the kind of scene that can have over saturated face tones, over bright flames and deep shadows, and the audience almost expect it. If they see people speaking who are soft, sparkles in the noise and critical things unlit - they notice those, so one of those scenes where less than ideal technical issues can be masked.

Were you not supposed to be doing audio?

She didn't call me for that scene and said no audio was necessary for that scene since it's a flashback done over narration, she said. I got the message from her later. She was using a Canon T3i, or T4i, or one of those types of models. I guess I'm just impressed, cause for me to get a fire that bright in the camera, you would constantly have to be spraying the fire with something flammable to get it bright enough it seems...

But they haven't asked to do the audio for the remaining shoots. I think what happened was, and this was just a guess, is that they are not getting me in order to save money, since they may not be able to pay me the wage they had said before. But that is just a guess.

Brian Drysdale · October 25th, 2019, 06:53 AM

A large enough fire will produce sufficient light, you don't need to add accelerants to the camp fire. just make sure that the subjects are at an appropriate distance.

Paul R Johnson · October 25th, 2019, 11:16 AM

Walk away Ryan - they're just wasting your time.

For what it's worth, NEVER put actors near a naked flame source and use accelerants. It's extremely dangerous and needs people who really understand how this works. As it happens, today I have been filling in the licence form for the pyros I'm using next month. As it's in a sensitive area, they want details of every item, how explosive it is, what it's stored in, who will be the person responsible and even transport of it is mentioned. The days of squirting lighter fluid on a bonfire are thankfully behind us - apart from idiots, of course!

Josh Bass · October 25th, 2019, 11:30 AM

Yeah...I was gonna say...T4i, lighting fire scene only with fire, telling you AFTER the shoot that they didnt need you and decided they wouldnt henceforth either...this sounds like the kind of garbage project I mentioned avoiding earlier.

Paul R Johnson · October 25th, 2019, 12:13 PM

Bet they did it hand-held too!

Ryan Elder · November 19th, 2019, 09:54 AM

I don't know, I didn't see any of the footage.

Paul R Johnson · November 19th, 2019, 11:52 AM

Sorry Ryan - it was irony, not a question!

October 25th, 2019, 06:53 AM	#32
Brian Drysdale Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belfast, UK Posts: 6,152	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? A large enough fire will produce sufficient light, you don't need to add accelerants to the camp fire. just make sure that the subjects are at an appropriate distance. Days of Heaven Campfire Scene - YouTube

October 25th, 2019, 11:16 AM	#33
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? Walk away Ryan - they're just wasting your time. For what it's worth, NEVER put actors near a naked flame source and use accelerants. It's extremely dangerous and needs people who really understand how this works. As it happens, today I have been filling in the licence form for the pyros I'm using next month. As it's in a sensitive area, they want details of every item, how explosive it is, what it's stored in, who will be the person responsible and even transport of it is mentioned. The days of squirting lighter fluid on a bonfire are thankfully behind us - apart from idiots, of course!

October 25th, 2019, 11:30 AM	#34
Josh Bass Slash Rules! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 5,472	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? Yeah...I was gonna say...T4i, lighting fire scene only with fire, telling you AFTER the shoot that they didnt need you and decided they wouldnt henceforth either...this sounds like the kind of garbage project I mentioned avoiding earlier. __________________ The Bass' camerawork The Bass on IMDB

October 25th, 2019, 12:13 PM	#35
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? Bet they did it hand-held too!

November 19th, 2019, 09:54 AM	#36
Ryan Elder also known as Ryan Wray Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saskatoon, Canada Posts: 2,888	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? I don't know, I didn't see any of the footage.

November 19th, 2019, 11:52 AM	#37
Paul R Johnson Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lowestoft - UK Posts: 4,045	Re: Does it look bad as a director trying to break in, not to have my own camera? Sorry Ryan - it was irony, not a question!