Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet

Boyd Ostroff · August 16th, 2018, 10:16 AM

No, apparently he actually does it every few months. I know, because I happen to make maps that require the installation of some open source software, and he uses them. So invariably he contacts me because he can’t remember how to install the software. So evidently he is doing a clean install, then installing his applications and copying his user files back. He’s very set in his ways about this, and I have given up asking why. ;-)

Like I said, I have been using Macs since 1985. I managed an office full of them in the 90’s. Have 3 Macs that I use everyday at home. But I’ve never needed to do clean installs of the operating system to fix a problem. Perhaps it has to do with the software I use, or maybe it’s because I don’t visit “certain” websites? :-P

But seriously, I am very slow to upgrade to a new version of MacOS. I stayed on 10.8.5 for many years until I finally decided to switch to Final Cut Pro X from legacy FCP.

Gary Huff · August 16th, 2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Boyd Ostroff

But seriously, I am very slow to upgrade to a new version of MacOS. I stayed on 10.8.5 for many years until I finally decided to switch to Final Cut Pro X from legacy FCP.

That's probably why.

Pete Bauer · October 22nd, 2018, 12:28 PM

Finally beat this “Huge System Storage” thing. From the Apple discussion threads, seems there isn’t one specific cause but the common theme is buried, or hidden, files/folders/volumes.

I tried everything I dared while away from home for 6 months with only my affected MBP with me, to no avail.

Once home, I finally broke down and installed free-to-try OmniDiskSweeper, which immediately identified a 374GB “in progress” Time Machine backup from, not coincidentally, right before I noticed my SSD unexpectedly near-full; it was showing as a hidden volume, not visible in Finder.

I deleted that hidden volume and thought at first it didn’t work, but lo and behold an hour or so later that space became available again, both in Get Info and About This Mac > Storage. My knowledge of macOS is miniscule, but guessing it just took time to re-index the SSD in the background.

While digging online, I did see other short threads pre-dating High Sierra with similar problems, so it seems that this is just a matter of whatever buried files (in some cases, GB of google mail drafts or huge numbers of text files for some errant application), or hidden folders/volumes that get left behind. In my case, it presumably was the failed Time Machine backup.

I’ll post this info over on the longest Apple Discussion about this. If you have this problem, you should be able to find that thread by keywording “macOS High Sierra – Huge System Storage” in the Apple discussion area.

Gary Huff · October 22nd, 2018, 02:27 PM

Moving onward, I did upgrade my Macbook Touch Bar to Mojave and I'm having a good experience on it. Definitely a stable OS for an initial release.

Pete Bauer · October 22nd, 2018, 03:24 PM

That's good news. Any further comments on FCP and/or PPRo performance?

http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...gh-sierra.html

Gary Huff · October 22nd, 2018, 09:04 PM

I haven't noticed a performance hit, but then I'm on a maxed out MacBook Pro 2018.

August 16th, 2018, 10:16 AM	#46
Boyd Ostroff Wrangler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mays Landing, NJ Posts: 11,802	Re: Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet No, apparently he actually does it every few months. I know, because I happen to make maps that require the installation of some open source software, and he uses them. So invariably he contacts me because he can’t remember how to install the software. So evidently he is doing a clean install, then installing his applications and copying his user files back. He’s very set in his ways about this, and I have given up asking why. ;-) Like I said, I have been using Macs since 1985. I managed an office full of them in the 90’s. Have 3 Macs that I use everyday at home. But I’ve never needed to do clean installs of the operating system to fix a problem. Perhaps it has to do with the software I use, or maybe it’s because I don’t visit “certain” websites? :-P But seriously, I am very slow to upgrade to a new version of MacOS. I stayed on 10.8.5 for many years until I finally decided to switch to Final Cut Pro X from legacy FCP.

October 22nd, 2018, 12:28 PM	#48
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Re: Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet Finally beat this “Huge System Storage” thing. From the Apple discussion threads, seems there isn’t one specific cause but the common theme is buried, or hidden, files/folders/volumes. I tried everything I dared while away from home for 6 months with only my affected MBP with me, to no avail. Once home, I finally broke down and installed free-to-try OmniDiskSweeper, which immediately identified a 374GB “in progress” Time Machine backup from, not coincidentally, right before I noticed my SSD unexpectedly near-full; it was showing as a hidden volume, not visible in Finder. I deleted that hidden volume and thought at first it didn’t work, but lo and behold an hour or so later that space became available again, both in Get Info and About This Mac > Storage. My knowledge of macOS is miniscule, but guessing it just took time to re-index the SSD in the background. While digging online, I did see other short threads pre-dating High Sierra with similar problems, so it seems that this is just a matter of whatever buried files (in some cases, GB of google mail drafts or huge numbers of text files for some errant application), or hidden folders/volumes that get left behind. In my case, it presumably was the failed Time Machine backup. I’ll post this info over on the longest Apple Discussion about this. If you have this problem, you should be able to find that thread by keywording “macOS High Sierra – Huge System Storage” in the Apple discussion area. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 22nd, 2018, 02:27 PM	#49
Gary Huff Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,006	Re: Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet Moving onward, I did upgrade my Macbook Touch Bar to Mojave and I'm having a good experience on it. Definitely a stable OS for an initial release.

October 22nd, 2018, 03:24 PM	#50
Pete Bauer Wrangler Join Date: May 2003 Location: Eagle River, AK Posts: 4,100	Re: Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet That's good news. Any further comments on FCP and/or PPRo performance? http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/adobe-cr...gh-sierra.html __________________ Pete Bauer The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. Albert Einstein Trying to solve a DV mystery? You may find the answer behind the SEARCH function ... or be able to join a discussion already in progress!

October 22nd, 2018, 09:04 PM	#51
Gary Huff Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 2,006	Re: Mac Sierra Users: Don't Upgrade to High-Sierra - yet I haven't noticed a performance hit, but then I'm on a maxed out MacBook Pro 2018.