Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing at DVinfo.net

Steven Davis · February 6th, 2013, 04:07 PM

Venetian Eco Solvent Printer - Venetian Solvent Ink System

When I was getting some disks, I had a Xerox rep call me about this printer, it's around 600.00, and wanted to get some opinions from everyone. What do you think?

Trevor Dennis · February 6th, 2013, 05:10 PM

I decided a while back, that the A3 printer I use (Pixma 9000) was borderline worth having, and much as I lusted after bigger printer, I had to accept that it would not make economic sense. So I now farm out big print jobs. So looking at the printer you linked to, I'm wondering how many disks you'd process in an average year?

It does look interesting though. A nice glossy finish and it doesn't need printable disks. Those refillable ink reservoirs are going to keep media costs down as well.

Stephen Brenner · February 6th, 2013, 07:20 PM

I've been using the HP 9180 and the Canon PRO 9000 for my print business.
Just purchased a new Canon Pro 9000 II off of Craigslist for $150. I use bulk
ink from Rjetek on the Canon and will be able to use that same ink on the new
printer, and the new printer also prints on dvd's. Haven't set it up yet, but if you
could find a deal on the Pro 9000 II (they were bundled with canon cameras so
they're out there cheap) it might be a better all around solution.

John Nantz · February 7th, 2013, 10:56 AM

As a hobbyest the price point is too high. However, I liked reading the part that the ink surface is highly water and scratch proof. Maybe in a few years I one could pick up a used one for cheap.

That's one thing I don't like about inkjet printers is the water-soluble ink.

Gene Gajewski · February 10th, 2013, 12:14 AM

I use a 4 year old Canon MX850 all-in-one to print disk, which doesn't support to prints to disks in the North American market, but does internationally.. I simply bought the disk tray off of eBay, and lied to the printer's firmware and told it that it was in the UK. The output is beautiful and as good as it can possibly get anywhere with inkjet technology.

Now, the notion of solvent print is great - because it's glossy. It will print on anything plastic. But it's important to note it's still CYMK technology, so if you want to get the colors right with it, you need to get white *glossy* media - which is available. This is why even the old screen print method sometimes requires a white flood coat first before the image is laid on. Of course, printing directly on uncoated silver media is possible as an artistic choice.

Trevor Dennis · February 10th, 2013, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Gene Gajewski

I use a 4 year old Canon MX850 all-in-one to print disk, which doesn't support to prints to disks in the North American market, but does internationally.. I simply bought the disk tray off of eBay, and lied to the printer's firmware and told it that it was in the UK. The output is beautiful and as good as it can possibly get anywhere with inkjet technology.

Well that got my attention. I used to use an MX530 for office printing and CDs, but I messed it up doing double sided too quickly (printing the opposite side before the ink was dry on the first side). No amount of cleaning would prevent it from leaving black marks on new prints, so I went out and bought an MX860.

I absolutely took it for granted that the MX860 would do CDs, and I was not happy to discover that it doesn't. But I have just looked closely and there is nowhere to slide the CD tray, hacked firmware or not!

It's a bugger because I have to use my Pixma 9000 pro to do CDs, and as I don't use it very often, it pains me to have to charge the print heads to do a few CDs, whereas the office printer is on the go all the time.

BTW I later found a trick on the web about lightly spraying a sheet of A$ paper with kitchen cleaner, and feeding it through the printers cleaning cycle. I haven't tried it yet though.

Gene Gajewski · February 13th, 2013, 09:08 PM

I think Canon got into a fist-fight over patents with another printer maker (Epson?). It's ridiculous, and I hope the EU puts the whammy to US created patents as being too fanciful. Next thing you know, someone's gonna patent breathing 'air' while browsing and we're all going to have to hold our breath.

I'm interested in my next printer being a semi-pro for photography, but still have to have a disk printer. So far, Epson seems to be the one that's constantly producing models for disk printing.

Sorry about Canon dropping the disk unit. It's a shame, really.

February 6th, 2013, 04:07 PM	#1
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing Venetian Eco Solvent Printer - Venetian Solvent Ink System When I was getting some disks, I had a Xerox rep call me about this printer, it's around 600.00, and wanted to get some opinions from everyone. What do you think? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

February 6th, 2013, 05:10 PM	#2
Trevor Dennis Major Player Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: New Zealand, Rapaura (near Blenheim) Posts: 434	Re: Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing I decided a while back, that the A3 printer I use (Pixma 9000) was borderline worth having, and much as I lusted after bigger printer, I had to accept that it would not make economic sense. So I now farm out big print jobs. So looking at the printer you linked to, I'm wondering how many disks you'd process in an average year? It does look interesting though. A nice glossy finish and it doesn't need printable disks. Those refillable ink reservoirs are going to keep media costs down as well. __________________ Stills at: www.flickr.com/photos/trevor-dennis/

February 6th, 2013, 07:20 PM	#3
Stephen Brenner Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brownsville, OR Posts: 116	Re: Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing I've been using the HP 9180 and the Canon PRO 9000 for my print business. Just purchased a new Canon Pro 9000 II off of Craigslist for $150. I use bulk ink from Rjetek on the Canon and will be able to use that same ink on the new printer, and the new printer also prints on dvd's. Haven't set it up yet, but if you could find a deal on the Pro 9000 II (they were bundled with canon cameras so they're out there cheap) it might be a better all around solution.

February 7th, 2013, 10:56 AM	#4
John Nantz Trustee Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 1,254	Re: Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing As a hobbyest the price point is too high. However, I liked reading the part that the ink surface is highly water and scratch proof. Maybe in a few years I one could pick up a used one for cheap. That's one thing I don't like about inkjet printers is the water-soluble ink.

February 10th, 2013, 12:14 AM	#5
Gene Gajewski Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Edgewood, NM Posts: 162	Re: Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing I use a 4 year old Canon MX850 all-in-one to print disk, which doesn't support to prints to disks in the North American market, but does internationally.. I simply bought the disk tray off of eBay, and lied to the printer's firmware and told it that it was in the UK. The output is beautiful and as good as it can possibly get anywhere with inkjet technology. Now, the notion of solvent print is great - because it's glossy. It will print on anything plastic. But it's important to note it's still CYMK technology, so if you want to get the colors right with it, you need to get white glossy media - which is available. This is why even the old screen print method sometimes requires a white flood coat first before the image is laid on. Of course, printing directly on uncoated silver media is possible as an artistic choice.

February 13th, 2013, 09:08 PM	#7
Gene Gajewski Regular Crew Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Edgewood, NM Posts: 162	Re: Interesting looking printer for direct to disk printing I think Canon got into a fist-fight over patents with another printer maker (Epson?). It's ridiculous, and I hope the EU puts the whammy to US created patents as being too fanciful. Next thing you know, someone's gonna patent breathing 'air' while browsing and we're all going to have to hold our breath. I'm interested in my next printer being a semi-pro for photography, but still have to have a disk printer. So far, Epson seems to be the one that's constantly producing models for disk printing. Sorry about Canon dropping the disk unit. It's a shame, really.