Video streaming at DVinfo.net

Jasper Pieterse van Wijck · August 17th, 2012, 07:10 AM

I work for a local broadcasting network in The Netherlands. We work on a low-budget, you'll rather say 'No Budget' and now we're looking for a solutions to broadcast live from locations outside our studio. This obviously means that we somehow got to send video and audio signal from that outside location to our studio. The cheapest solution that also works now, is to stream the signal using a client like Ustream from the location and pick that stream up with another computer, and put the display through a Scan converter and subsequently broadcast that signal. Now that is an option that would work for us and our empty wallets(Unless you know any other cheap solution).

To finish it up, we're looking for a Streaming client wich has the option to stream only inside a server or it's own software, meaning that the broadcast signal picked up at the studio doesn't have to come from a website like Ustream.

Does anybody know if there is such a piece of software available on the market? Oh, and it doesn't have to be free. ;-)

Regards from Holland,

Jasper

Chris Medico · August 17th, 2012, 07:16 AM

You can use VLC Media player to set up a private stream between 2 clients on an intranet. It is free.

Sareesh Sudhakaran · August 17th, 2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jasper Pieterse van Wijck

Does anybody know if there is such a piece of software available on the market? Oh, and it doesn't have to be free. ;-)

Regards from Holland,

Jasper

We had a similar discussion a few weeks ago here: http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/flash-we...ebcasting.html

Check out Telestream Wirecast.

Jasper Pieterse van Wijck · August 18th, 2012, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Medico

You can use VLC Media player to set up a private stream between 2 clients on an intranet. It is free.

Where can I find an easy manual to get VLC to do this? Because I have to select a file I want to stream but in this case the video comes from a live feed inputted via a Blackmagic capture card.

Chris Medico · August 18th, 2012, 08:08 AM

Free and simple rarely go together. This is especially true with video streaming.

Read over the "HowTo" here:
VideoLAN Streaming Howto

That is the most comprehensive documentation I am aware of.

Jasper Pieterse van Wijck · October 7th, 2012, 06:20 AM

Well, VLC only streams over an LAN network, in this case the we're on a location outside the building where the MCR is located so we're relying on the WAN network available at the location. In most cases the connection available is a Fiber connection.

Chris Medico · October 7th, 2012, 06:41 AM

If you have fiber to WAN then setup a VNC tunnel. VLC point to point streaming can be done over a VNC connection. Probably a reasonable thing to do anyway to keep it a private connection.

Shaun Roemich · October 7th, 2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Medico

Free and simple rarely go together. This is especially true with video streaming.

You forgot to add RELIABLE...

Giroud Francois · October 7th, 2012, 12:44 PM

almost any encoder that can stream to network is able to stream to a particular address.
you just need to make sure the endpoint is set up correctly.
flash live encoder, vlc, windows media encoder, to name a few are ok.
you can even decide to go for harware solution, a small box at each end, video video composite in and out.
the main problem is to get a reliable connection (streaming is very finnicky about packet loss) and the necessary bandwidth. Some encoders do not like network cuts, because you have to reinitiate the full connection.
I would recommend windows media encoder, since it is free and works great. VLC is ok too, but the lack of interface require to fiddle with cryptic commands. You can find many usb dongle that can accept an SD video input. If you need to go HD, it is a bit more complicated to set up on a laptop.
in 2010 the satellite KASAT was launched and now there is a new service lauched called Tooway that offer high bandwith for very cheap (less than 50 euros per month for a 4Mb up link)
they started this year in France and now in Switzerland, but the satellite covers europe.
so for cheap you can get a dish and modem to feed your office with live video.

Jasper Pieterse van Wijck · October 8th, 2012, 03:35 AM

Problem remains, when I receive the stream in the MCR. How could I possibly output it to an SDI signal without using a scan converter to duplicate the computer's screen. So I'm searching for software which can output to a SDI capture card, like the BM Decklink SDI.

Chris Medico · October 8th, 2012, 08:00 AM

If the computer has DVI or HDMI output you only need this box to convert it to SDI.

Blackmagic Design Mini Converter HDMI to SDI CONVMBHS2 B&H Photo

August 17th, 2012, 07:10 AM	#1
Jasper Pieterse van Wijck New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Naarden, The Netherlands Posts: 18	Video streaming I work for a local broadcasting network in The Netherlands. We work on a low-budget, you'll rather say 'No Budget' and now we're looking for a solutions to broadcast live from locations outside our studio. This obviously means that we somehow got to send video and audio signal from that outside location to our studio. The cheapest solution that also works now, is to stream the signal using a client like Ustream from the location and pick that stream up with another computer, and put the display through a Scan converter and subsequently broadcast that signal. Now that is an option that would work for us and our empty wallets(Unless you know any other cheap solution). To finish it up, we're looking for a Streaming client wich has the option to stream only inside a server or it's own software, meaning that the broadcast signal picked up at the studio doesn't have to come from a website like Ustream. Does anybody know if there is such a piece of software available on the market? Oh, and it doesn't have to be free. ;-) Regards from Holland, Jasper

August 17th, 2012, 07:16 AM	#2
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Video streaming You can use VLC Media player to set up a private stream between 2 clients on an intranet. It is free. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

August 18th, 2012, 08:08 AM	#5
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Video streaming Free and simple rarely go together. This is especially true with video streaming. Read over the "HowTo" here: VideoLAN Streaming Howto That is the most comprehensive documentation I am aware of. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

October 7th, 2012, 06:20 AM	#6
Jasper Pieterse van Wijck New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Naarden, The Netherlands Posts: 18	Re: Video streaming Well, VLC only streams over an LAN network, in this case the we're on a location outside the building where the MCR is located so we're relying on the WAN network available at the location. In most cases the connection available is a Fiber connection.

October 7th, 2012, 06:41 AM	#7
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Video streaming If you have fiber to WAN then setup a VNC tunnel. VLC point to point streaming can be done over a VNC connection. Probably a reasonable thing to do anyway to keep it a private connection. __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com

October 7th, 2012, 12:44 PM	#9
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	Re: Video streaming almost any encoder that can stream to network is able to stream to a particular address. you just need to make sure the endpoint is set up correctly. flash live encoder, vlc, windows media encoder, to name a few are ok. you can even decide to go for harware solution, a small box at each end, video video composite in and out. the main problem is to get a reliable connection (streaming is very finnicky about packet loss) and the necessary bandwidth. Some encoders do not like network cuts, because you have to reinitiate the full connection. I would recommend windows media encoder, since it is free and works great. VLC is ok too, but the lack of interface require to fiddle with cryptic commands. You can find many usb dongle that can accept an SD video input. If you need to go HD, it is a bit more complicated to set up on a laptop. in 2010 the satellite KASAT was launched and now there is a new service lauched called Tooway that offer high bandwith for very cheap (less than 50 euros per month for a 4Mb up link) they started this year in France and now in Switzerland, but the satellite covers europe. so for cheap you can get a dish and modem to feed your office with live video.

October 8th, 2012, 03:35 AM	#10
Jasper Pieterse van Wijck New Boot Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Naarden, The Netherlands Posts: 18	Re: Video streaming Problem remains, when I receive the stream in the MCR. How could I possibly output it to an SDI signal without using a scan converter to duplicate the computer's screen. So I'm searching for software which can output to a SDI capture card, like the BM Decklink SDI.

October 8th, 2012, 08:00 AM	#11
Chris Medico Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Efland NC, USA Posts: 2,322	Re: Video streaming If the computer has DVI or HDMI output you only need this box to convert it to SDI. Blackmagic Design Mini Converter HDMI to SDI CONVMBHS2 B&H Photo __________________ http://www.LandYachtMedia.com