Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? at DVinfo.net

Stan Harkleroad · June 28th, 2011, 06:31 PM

Subject says it. I want to convert some old VHS and BETA tapes to DVD for a family member. I have an old JVC consumer camera that I'm missing the power adapter that I know has the function. I also have 3 HV40 cams so if I can use one of those it would be ideal.

Simon Wood · July 1st, 2011, 12:51 AM

It might be simpler to just buy one of the many converters that are on the market (plug one end into the player with analog connections and then plug the other into your computer usb port). The device will convert the tapes to a modern codec.

Like this (but there are many that will do the job):

Amazon.com: Diamond VC500 One Touch Video Capture Device: Electronics

Colin McDonald · July 1st, 2011, 01:06 AM

Yes - see page 71 of the User manual.

Stelios Christofides · July 4th, 2011, 12:56 AM

Is the USB OK for transferring video? I always thought that you need a firewire for this.

stelios

Bruce Foreman · July 10th, 2011, 07:45 AM

If you do it the way shown in the manual you are first recording the external analog source to MiniDV in the camera in DV mode. You then would have to capture that tape using firewire in the same manner as if you had "filmed" in DV.

The reference to USB above pertains to an external device that takes your analog video from the external source, converts it, and then sends it over to the computer using a USB connection between the device (not the HV40) and computer.

The USB connection on the HV40 is only for still images recorded on the media card.

Stan Harkleroad · July 10th, 2011, 07:09 PM

I'm not buying anything extra to do this. I'm converting a bunch of tapes for a family member and we haven't discussed payment. I'm doing it as a favor in my spare time assuming that I'll most likely be offered some compensation when I'm finished.

I don't want to capture to tape and then to PC. I have an old JVC single chip cam that does pass through and just needed to get the power supply which was at a different location. I've been using that method and have transferred about half of the tapes so far with no problems. I was just going to use the Canon if it was possible because I didn't know when I was going to get the power supply for the other camera back.

Lloyd Coleman · July 10th, 2011, 09:26 PM

The pass through takes the analog in from the VCR and passes it to the computer via firewire in one step. There is no need to record and then capture.

Colin McDonald · July 10th, 2011, 11:35 PM

That won't actually work on the HV-40 (just tried it). As soon as you connect a FireWire cable, the camera expects a digital input to record and the analogue input is disconnected. (Yes, I hot plugged the FireWire and the world has not ended - the FireWire input still works).

So, strictly speaking, it is not a pass through like the earlier DV cameras had. Sorry if I mislead you, but I always want a tape backup when I digitise my old analogue footage, so I hadn't noticed that until Bruce's post.

Lloyd Coleman · July 11th, 2011, 07:24 AM

I just tried the pass through with the HV40 and it does work, but is a little tricky. I have to go to the menu and select AV>DV to ON each time I start the camera because it resets to the default OFF position.

I also found that with the software I am using (Premiere Pro CS 5.0) I had to set the device control to OFF otherwise when I hit the record button to capture it would activate the record button on the camcorder, which would reset the AV>DV to OFF again.

So, its a little tricky, but it does work with the HV40 for me.

Good luck, Lloyd

June 28th, 2011, 06:31 PM	#1
Stan Harkleroad Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gautier, MS Posts: 175	Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? Subject says it. I want to convert some old VHS and BETA tapes to DVD for a family member. I have an old JVC consumer camera that I'm missing the power adapter that I know has the function. I also have 3 HV40 cams so if I can use one of those it would be ideal.

July 1st, 2011, 12:51 AM	#2
Simon Wood Major Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Entebbe Uganda Posts: 768	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? It might be simpler to just buy one of the many converters that are on the market (plug one end into the player with analog connections and then plug the other into your computer usb port). The device will convert the tapes to a modern codec. Like this (but there are many that will do the job): Amazon.com: Diamond VC500 One Touch Video Capture Device: Electronics Amazon.com: Diamond VC500 One Touch Video Capture Device: Electronics __________________ http://vimeo.com/channels/guerrillafilms

July 1st, 2011, 01:06 AM	#3
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? Yes - see page 71 of the User manual. Attached Thumbnails

July 4th, 2011, 12:56 AM	#4
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July 10th, 2011, 07:45 AM	#5
Bruce Foreman Trustee Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Angelo Texas Posts: 1,518	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? If you do it the way shown in the manual you are first recording the external analog source to MiniDV in the camera in DV mode. You then would have to capture that tape using firewire in the same manner as if you had "filmed" in DV. The reference to USB above pertains to an external device that takes your analog video from the external source, converts it, and then sends it over to the computer using a USB connection between the device (not the HV40) and computer. The USB connection on the HV40 is only for still images recorded on the media card.

July 10th, 2011, 07:09 PM	#6
Stan Harkleroad Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Gautier, MS Posts: 175	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? I'm not buying anything extra to do this. I'm converting a bunch of tapes for a family member and we haven't discussed payment. I'm doing it as a favor in my spare time assuming that I'll most likely be offered some compensation when I'm finished. I don't want to capture to tape and then to PC. I have an old JVC single chip cam that does pass through and just needed to get the power supply which was at a different location. I've been using that method and have transferred about half of the tapes so far with no problems. I was just going to use the Canon if it was possible because I didn't know when I was going to get the power supply for the other camera back.

July 10th, 2011, 09:26 PM	#7
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? The pass through takes the analog in from the VCR and passes it to the computer via firewire in one step. There is no need to record and then capture.

July 10th, 2011, 11:35 PM	#8
Colin McDonald Trustee Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 1,546	Make that a "No" then That won't actually work on the HV-40 (just tried it). As soon as you connect a FireWire cable, the camera expects a digital input to record and the analogue input is disconnected. (Yes, I hot plugged the FireWire and the world has not ended - the FireWire input still works). So, strictly speaking, it is not a pass through like the earlier DV cameras had. Sorry if I mislead you, but I always want a tape backup when I digitise my old analogue footage, so I hadn't noticed that until Bruce's post.

July 11th, 2011, 07:24 AM	#9
Lloyd Coleman Major Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 256	Re: Does the Canon HV40 have analog/digital pass through? I just tried the pass through with the HV40 and it does work, but is a little tricky. I have to go to the menu and select AV>DV to ON each time I start the camera because it resets to the default OFF position. I also found that with the software I am using (Premiere Pro CS 5.0) I had to set the device control to OFF otherwise when I hit the record button to capture it would activate the record button on the camcorder, which would reset the AV>DV to OFF again. So, its a little tricky, but it does work with the HV40 for me. Good luck, Lloyd