Boris vs. After Effects at DVinfo.net

Steven Davis · April 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM

Well, since NAB didn't produce any new cameras, I am looking into getting new software. I use Vegas and want to bump up the effects I do, especially the crappy text ability Vegas has.

So Boris vs After Effects. All comments are welcome.

Kevin Lewis · April 28th, 2011, 09:33 PM

I use Boris Graffiti for titling and it works great. I use a lot of the templets but you can alo create you own tiltes. I use most of the basic applications but the prgram ssems to be pretty powerful.

Ken Plotin · April 28th, 2011, 10:11 PM

Well, they both have a definite learning curve. I use Boris Red 3 (titling, some comps) as a standalone with Sony Vegas as my NLE of choice. Some of the filters (lightzoom rays, etc) are very nice and can add some nice punch when used selectively. I have never gotten some of the titling functions (materials, for example), to work. Admittedly, I haven't taken the necessary time to learn it's full capabilities; BUT: If I were learning just one program from scratch, I'd probably choose AE,not just because of it's industry footprint, but also because of it's plug-ins.
Hope this helps.
Ken

Dean Sensui · April 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM

I would go with AE.

It goes way beyond titles. Provides motion tracking and more. It has lots of plug-ins and there are lots of third party plug-ins as well.

Steven Davis · April 29th, 2011, 06:33 PM

Thanks Dean,

Since I'm currently being beat over the head with Sony Vegas, I can get the complete CS5 Production Suite which has AE in it.

Seth Bloombaum · April 29th, 2011, 08:43 PM

I certainly agree with the above. One more point, the kind of thing I've had to think about a lot in recent projects - if you invest your time & money in AE, if/when you get a little overwhelmed with work you're likely to be able to find someone who can help, and they'll be on the same software.

I'm involved in a project right now where we're in a less-common software (not motion graphics), and I'm sure wishing we'd thought about this issue about 8 mos. ago, because we just lost a key contributor, and there's nobody on the bench to go to.

Steven Davis · April 29th, 2011, 10:08 PM

When I phoned Sony today, and told them that I was thinking of buying CS5 Production suite, the guy started telling me how crappy Adobe support was. To which I responded, and you're going to charge me too aren't you?

Dale Guthormsen · April 30th, 2011, 04:40 PM

Just a thought,

You could buy the slightly older after effects instead of the whole suite!!! I still have and use 6.5 Pro, though I virtually never use it for making titles.

Steve Kalle · April 30th, 2011, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Guthormsen

Just a thought,

You could buy the slightly older after effects instead of the whole suite!!! I still have and use 6.5 Pro, though I virtually never use it for making titles.

I can't begin to stress how much of a difference CS5 and now CS5.5 makes versus prior versions due to 64bit. And once you see the new Warp Stabilizer in 5.5, you will want AE sooo badly. I literally was about to buy a Kessler Slider but the Warp Stabilizer negates my need for the slider - its that AMAZING!

Also, there is quite a bit of work available to AE artists so becoming an avid AE user can greatly expand your opportunities.

Jim Andrada · April 30th, 2011, 09:34 PM

I bought 6.5 "used" from Amazon a couple of years back and then upgraded to newer versions - much cheaper than starting with a full price version. Worked fine. I use the Adobe Design Premium (ie no P-Pro) and then just upgrade AE separately if/when I feel the need.

Steven Davis · April 30th, 2011, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dale Guthormsen

Just a thought,

You could buy the slightly older after effects instead of the whole suite!!! I still have and use 6.5 Pro, though I virtually never use it for making titles.

Interesting Dale, I'm still researching AE and how much it can do with titles. I once saw a video on Digital Juice and it had handwriting text and I emailed them and asked them how they did it and they told me they used AE.

Sareesh Sudhakaran · April 30th, 2011, 11:23 PM

After Effects. It is what others look to as a standard in comping, motion graphics, grading, and finishing.

Dale Guthormsen · May 1st, 2011, 04:52 PM

some time back I was reading and a professional colorista stated that every major movie goes through after effects, that about says it all.

April 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM	#1
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Boris vs. After Effects Well, since NAB didn't produce any new cameras, I am looking into getting new software. I use Vegas and want to bump up the effects I do, especially the crappy text ability Vegas has. So Boris vs After Effects. All comments are welcome. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 28th, 2011, 09:33 PM	#2
Kevin Lewis Major Player Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Philadelphia, pa Posts: 705	Re: Boris vs. After Effects I use Boris Graffiti for titling and it works great. I use a lot of the templets but you can alo create you own tiltes. I use most of the basic applications but the prgram ssems to be pretty powerful.

April 28th, 2011, 10:11 PM	#3
Ken Plotin Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 254	Re: Boris vs. After Effects Well, they both have a definite learning curve. I use Boris Red 3 (titling, some comps) as a standalone with Sony Vegas as my NLE of choice. Some of the filters (lightzoom rays, etc) are very nice and can add some nice punch when used selectively. I have never gotten some of the titling functions (materials, for example), to work. Admittedly, I haven't taken the necessary time to learn it's full capabilities; BUT: If I were learning just one program from scratch, I'd probably choose AE,not just because of it's industry footprint, but also because of it's plug-ins. Hope this helps. Ken

April 29th, 2011, 05:08 PM	#4
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	Re: Boris vs. After Effects I would go with AE. It goes way beyond titles. Provides motion tracking and more. It has lots of plug-ins and there are lots of third party plug-ins as well. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

April 29th, 2011, 06:33 PM	#5
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Boris vs. After Effects Thanks Dean, Since I'm currently being beat over the head with Sony Vegas, I can get the complete CS5 Production Suite which has AE in it. __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 29th, 2011, 08:43 PM	#6
Seth Bloombaum Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,420	Re: Boris vs. After Effects I certainly agree with the above. One more point, the kind of thing I've had to think about a lot in recent projects - if you invest your time & money in AE, if/when you get a little overwhelmed with work you're likely to be able to find someone who can help, and they'll be on the same software. I'm involved in a project right now where we're in a less-common software (not motion graphics), and I'm sure wishing we'd thought about this issue about 8 mos. ago, because we just lost a key contributor, and there's nobody on the bench to go to. __________________ 30 years of pro media production. Vegas user since 1.0. Webcaster since 1997. Freelancer since 2000. College instructor since 2001.

April 29th, 2011, 10:08 PM	#7
Steven Davis Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 3,065	Re: Boris vs. After Effects When I phoned Sony today, and told them that I was thinking of buying CS5 Production suite, the guy started telling me how crappy Adobe support was. To which I responded, and you're going to charge me too aren't you? __________________ What happens if I push the 'Red' button?

April 30th, 2011, 04:40 PM	#8
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: Boris vs. After Effects Just a thought, You could buy the slightly older after effects instead of the whole suite!!! I still have and use 6.5 Pro, though I virtually never use it for making titles. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen

April 30th, 2011, 09:34 PM	#10
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	Re: Boris vs. After Effects I bought 6.5 "used" from Amazon a couple of years back and then upgraded to newer versions - much cheaper than starting with a full price version. Worked fine. I use the Adobe Design Premium (ie no P-Pro) and then just upgrade AE separately if/when I feel the need.

April 30th, 2011, 11:23 PM	#12
Sareesh Sudhakaran Trustee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 1,385	Re: Boris vs. After Effects After Effects. It is what others look to as a standard in comping, motion graphics, grading, and finishing. __________________ Get the Free Comprehensive Guide to Rigging ANY Camera - one guide to rig them all - DSLRs to the Arri Alexa.

May 1st, 2011, 04:52 PM	#13
Dale Guthormsen Inner Circle Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,048	Re: Boris vs. After Effects some time back I was reading and a professional colorista stated that every major movie goes through after effects, that about says it all. __________________ DATS ALL FOLKS Dale W. Guthormsen