4:3 and a 16:9 issue

Adam Rench · July 20th, 2005, 09:02 PM

I totally screwed this one up. I had used two cameras on a shoot. Both of them were to shoot in 16:9 mode.

Well, this was my first time shooting and the 2nd camera was in the 4:3 setting. (Yes, I've learned from my mistake!)

What can I do to get some footage out of this blunder? I've never edited two different ratios at the same time. Can I cut the top off the 4:3 and capture?

Any help is very appreciated!

Ash Greyson · July 20th, 2005, 09:58 PM

Sure, you can crop it no problem, you might have to soften up the other stuff to match but it wont be a big deal... just watch your framing on the cropped shots, you may, at times need to tweak the cropped area...

ash =o)

Adam Rench · July 20th, 2005, 10:02 PM

I can always rely on you for great answer Ash. Thanks very much.

Would I crop in my NLE or in some other program. I'm hoping in my NLE. I'm using Avid.

Kyle Ringin · July 20th, 2005, 10:19 PM

Do it in your NLE, that way you can preview the crop and adjust the framing to make it look nice (as Ash said) as if you just crop the top and bottom you'll likely wind up with bad composition - heads cut off, etc.

Adam Rench · July 21st, 2005, 07:16 AM

Awesome. Thanks. I bought a book on Avid, sort of a reference book, and I'll find out how to crop in Avid. Thanks again!

Devin Eskew · July 21st, 2005, 01:33 PM

I'm not sure if this relates as I have not used Avid in two years. For extra measure I think you could set your render sub option for 16:9 just to make sure. I know Premier and Vegas offer this. I've done it before and it matched up without any noticable difference.

Steven Gotz · July 21st, 2005, 01:45 PM

Just a random thought ...

Rather than crop, you may find it easier to just mess with the scale and position. Cropping would probably take more thought.

Adam Rench · July 22nd, 2005, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devin Eskew

I'm not sure if this relates as I have not used Avid in two years. For extra measure I think you could set your render sub option for 16:9 just to make sure. I know Premier and Vegas offer this. I've done it before and it matched up without any noticable difference.

Never heard of this before. It sounds intriguing. What is it? I will also look in my new Avid book for this too. thanks

Devin Eskew · July 22nd, 2005, 02:15 PM

Like I said, I'm not sure if it will translate on Avid. Vegas offers a render template and it will render everything in your time line as 16:9. I've used it will clips shot on a PDX-10 which uses extra pixels for a more true 16:9 and a PD-170 which does not. It matched up very clean, that is to say the PDX-10 was matched to the PD-170. This is not turning 4:3 into true 16:9 it is only simulated. It looked good and solved my problem. Let me know if you need anymore info, and good luck!

Adam Rench · July 22nd, 2005, 02:40 PM

Hey nice! I'll check it out in Avid. :o)`

July 20th, 2005, 09:02 PM	#1
Adam Rench Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA Posts: 386	4:3 and a 16:9 issue - HELP! I totally screwed this one up. I had used two cameras on a shoot. Both of them were to shoot in 16:9 mode. Well, this was my first time shooting and the 2nd camera was in the 4:3 setting. (Yes, I've learned from my mistake!) What can I do to get some footage out of this blunder? I've never edited two different ratios at the same time. Can I cut the top off the 4:3 and capture? Any help is very appreciated!

July 21st, 2005, 01:33 PM	#6
Devin Eskew Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 115	I'm not sure if this relates as I have not used Avid in two years. For extra measure I think you could set your render sub option for 16:9 just to make sure. I know Premier and Vegas offer this. I've done it before and it matched up without any noticable difference. __________________ We learn by doing, we learn better by making mistakes!

July 21st, 2005, 01:45 PM	#7
Steven Gotz Trustee Join Date: May 2002 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 1,520	Just a random thought ... Rather than crop, you may find it easier to just mess with the scale and position. Cropping would probably take more thought. __________________ Steven Gotz http://www.stevengotz.com

July 22nd, 2005, 02:15 PM	#9
Devin Eskew Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 115	Like I said, I'm not sure if it will translate on Avid. Vegas offers a render template and it will render everything in your time line as 16:9. I've used it will clips shot on a PDX-10 which uses extra pixels for a more true 16:9 and a PD-170 which does not. It matched up very clean, that is to say the PDX-10 was matched to the PD-170. This is not turning 4:3 into true 16:9 it is only simulated. It looked good and solved my problem. Let me know if you need anymore info, and good luck! __________________ We learn by doing, we learn better by making mistakes!

July 20th, 2005, 09:58 PM	#2
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	Sure, you can crop it no problem, you might have to soften up the other stuff to match but it wont be a big deal... just watch your framing on the cropped shots, you may, at times need to tweak the cropped area... ash =o)

July 20th, 2005, 10:02 PM	#3
Adam Rench Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA Posts: 386	I can always rely on you for great answer Ash. Thanks very much. Would I crop in my NLE or in some other program. I'm hoping in my NLE. I'm using Avid.

July 20th, 2005, 10:19 PM	#4
Kyle Ringin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 241	Do it in your NLE, that way you can preview the crop and adjust the framing to make it look nice (as Ash said) as if you just crop the top and bottom you'll likely wind up with bad composition - heads cut off, etc.

July 21st, 2005, 07:16 AM	#5
Adam Rench Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA Posts: 386	Awesome. Thanks. I bought a book on Avid, sort of a reference book, and I'll find out how to crop in Avid. Thanks again!

July 22nd, 2005, 02:40 PM	#10
Adam Rench Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA Posts: 386	Hey nice! I'll check it out in Avid. :o)`