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Brian Jeffries · March 18th, 2010, 11:03 AM

I am working with someone on creating some short 1 minute clips for the web. What would be the best way for them to get the footage to me? Should I have them mail me the Tape or upload it to a server and have me download it? I am about an hour from them so its a little difficult to drive out there and pick it up.

Thanks,
Brian

John Stakes · March 18th, 2010, 11:49 AM

Best method is always to start with the original. So if they can mail you the tapes, I would go for that (ship them in a larger box with packing peanuts). FTP is possible if you are in a crunch, Filezilla works great for that. Be sure to send the raw .mpeg or .avi file. Keep in mind a 63 minute DV tape is usually around 10GB.

JS

Ervin Farkas · March 18th, 2010, 03:53 PM

Both methods work fine, I've used them both myself. If you go for ftp, you will need a web server and a very fast internet connection on both sides, especially uploading is much slower as ISPs only provide a fraction of the download speed as upload speed, the tipycal DSL is usually 4-6Mbps down but only 384 or 768 Kbps up.

Brian Jeffries · March 18th, 2010, 04:21 PM

He said he would like to keep the original tape so FTP is looking like that may be the way of transfer. I do have Filezilla and access to his web server (I am his webmaster).

Do you know of any programs where you can cut the raw footage into smaller maybe 15-20 minute clips but still retain 95% of the quality? These will most likely be uploaded to youtube so they do not need to be DVD quality but that would definitely be ideal.

"Keep in mind a 63 minute DV tape is usually around 10GB." That also applies to SD?

Thanks,
Brian

Ervin Farkas · March 18th, 2010, 07:10 PM

Yes, actually it's more like 13 GB. Doesn't matter if it's DV or HDV, same amount of data, just different compression type.

You can try WinRar - can cut it up in whatever size pieces you want.

Chris Soucy · March 18th, 2010, 08:01 PM

If whomever has access to two cameras, he/ she can copy the original to the second camera using Firewire.

They get to keep the original, you get mailed the identical copy.

Everbody's happy.

CS

Brian Jeffries · March 18th, 2010, 08:41 PM

"You can try WinRar - can cut it up in whatever size pieces you want. "
I use WinRar for any basic compression that I need, but are you saying that you can cut the footage in WinRar?

If not, do you happen to know of any programs that I can try and also refer to him?

Thanks

Dean Sensui · March 18th, 2010, 11:57 PM

If it's DV, have that person capture it and put it on a small portable hard drive or a large USB thumb drive.

Capturing from tape is essentially a simple data transfer from tape to the HDD. So there's no loss. Your production partner gets to keep the original tapes and you get a duplicate. It will also serve as a backup should something happen to the tapes.

Ervin Farkas · March 19th, 2010, 05:59 AM

No, this is NOT video editing. WinRar will cut up large data files into small pieces - useful for FTP transfer. If the transfer gets interrupted, you don't have to start all over, you just start from where it got stopped. I used this method for tranferring 4-5GB mpeg files (a weekly one hour TV show) from here to a TV station over in Eastern Europe for two years - that's about 100 times, worked very well.

On the receiving end the small pieces are re-combined into the original file.

Chris Davis · March 19th, 2010, 01:46 PM

WinRAR can break large files into smaller files. Video footage is just a file. Once recombined, you will have a bit-for-bit exact copy of the original file.

March 18th, 2010, 11:03 AM	#1
Brian Jeffries Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 31	DV or FTP? I am working with someone on creating some short 1 minute clips for the web. What would be the best way for them to get the footage to me? Should I have them mail me the Tape or upload it to a server and have me download it? I am about an hour from them so its a little difficult to drive out there and pick it up. Thanks, Brian

March 18th, 2010, 03:53 PM	#3
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Both methods work fine, I've used them both myself. If you go for ftp, you will need a web server and a very fast internet connection on both sides, especially uploading is much slower as ISPs only provide a fraction of the download speed as upload speed, the tipycal DSL is usually 4-6Mbps down but only 384 or 768 Kbps up. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

March 18th, 2010, 07:10 PM	#5
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Yes, actually it's more like 13 GB. Doesn't matter if it's DV or HDV, same amount of data, just different compression type. You can try WinRar - can cut it up in whatever size pieces you want. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

March 18th, 2010, 08:01 PM	#6
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,691 Images: 18	Hi........... If whomever has access to two cameras, he/ she can copy the original to the second camera using Firewire. They get to keep the original, you get mailed the identical copy. Everbody's happy. CS

March 18th, 2010, 11:57 PM	#8
Dean Sensui Inner Circle Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Posts: 2,054	If it's DV, have that person capture it and put it on a small portable hard drive or a large USB thumb drive. Capturing from tape is essentially a simple data transfer from tape to the HDD. So there's no loss. Your production partner gets to keep the original tapes and you get a duplicate. It will also serve as a backup should something happen to the tapes. __________________ Dean Sensui Exec Producer, Hawaii Goes Fishing

March 18th, 2010, 11:49 AM	#2
John Stakes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 558	Best method is always to start with the original. So if they can mail you the tapes, I would go for that (ship them in a larger box with packing peanuts). FTP is possible if you are in a crunch, Filezilla works great for that. Be sure to send the raw .mpeg or .avi file. Keep in mind a 63 minute DV tape is usually around 10GB. JS

March 18th, 2010, 04:21 PM	#4
Brian Jeffries Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 31	He said he would like to keep the original tape so FTP is looking like that may be the way of transfer. I do have Filezilla and access to his web server (I am his webmaster). Do you know of any programs where you can cut the raw footage into smaller maybe 15-20 minute clips but still retain 95% of the quality? These will most likely be uploaded to youtube so they do not need to be DVD quality but that would definitely be ideal. "Keep in mind a 63 minute DV tape is usually around 10GB." That also applies to SD? Thanks, Brian

March 18th, 2010, 08:41 PM	#7
Brian Jeffries Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Southern California Posts: 31	"You can try WinRar - can cut it up in whatever size pieces you want. " I use WinRar for any basic compression that I need, but are you saying that you can cut the footage in WinRar? If not, do you happen to know of any programs that I can try and also refer to him? Thanks

March 19th, 2010, 05:59 AM	#9
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	No, this is NOT video editing. WinRar will cut up large data files into small pieces - useful for FTP transfer. If the transfer gets interrupted, you don't have to start all over, you just start from where it got stopped. I used this method for tranferring 4-5GB mpeg files (a weekly one hour TV show) from here to a TV station over in Eastern Europe for two years - that's about 100 times, worked very well. On the receiving end the small pieces are re-combined into the original file. __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

March 19th, 2010, 01:46 PM	#10
Chris Davis Trustee Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Willmar, MN Posts: 1,400	WinRAR can break large files into smaller files. Video footage is just a file. Once recombined, you will have a bit-for-bit exact copy of the original file.