Whole Enchilada. Getting started. (Newbie alert)

Bob Costa · June 29th, 2005, 07:48 AM

Between gs250 and gs400, I would choose 400 only because it has a ring control for the iris, rather than a touch screen. Touchscreen shooting controls are my biggest PITA with the one-chip I bought. Focus and iris need to be easily accessible, WB can be a touch screen item since you typically set it once per location.

Patrick Jenkins · June 29th, 2005, 08:29 AM

I'd give the nod to the 60 as well. You can go to your local BestBuy and try it out (or the 50 - that's what I've seen in stores) to get the feel for it, button placement, etc then go buy online for a better price.

I had a GS150 and I've used a GS250 and IMO the Canons are worth a whole lot more (while being cheaper to boot). I've never used a GS400.

The only thing that the GS400 (and Panasonics in general) have over an Optura is you can manually control the amount of gain in your image (IMO, not a selling point). The GS400 has a quasi frame as well mode but depending on your view of it deinterlacing could be better (you get interpolated image rather than a frame w/ half the data thrown out).

$.02

John Unger · June 29th, 2005, 03:10 PM

Thanks to everyone here, we made a decision!

Remember, we are beginners and want to learn before getting into the big leagues, but we want a quality product as well.

Drum roll please !!!!

Camera: Optura 60 (Special Package from B&H) $800

Software: Sony Vegas Movie Studio $99

Computer: We were going to use my laptop, but found an eMachine we couldn't pass up!! I have used an emachine (Gateway makes them) laptop for over a year and it is great. Cheap but can handle what we want: AMD 3400 2.8ghz, 1 GIG RAM, 200 MB 7200 HD, Firewire, Dual Layer DVD, all for $550 bucks.!
It should handle the work we want. That will be its only job.

Odd and Ends: $400 (Tapes, Mic, Lights)

An inexpensive way to start. We will grow when we feel ready. No rush, just practice, practice, read, practice, edit, practice, in no particular order.

Thank again. Pretty soon I'l be using sme of the "lingo" around here.

Patrick Jenkins · June 29th, 2005, 09:25 PM

Wow, that's an insane price for a laptop like that. Good find!

John Unger · June 29th, 2005, 09:43 PM

Actually, it is a desktop system. It is too good to pass up. I sold computers for 4 years and Emachines used to be a joke. Since Gateway took over, they have slowly evolved into nice little systems and nobody can touch the price.

For starting out, I think they are excellent.

Bob Costa · June 30th, 2005, 12:09 AM

Get a UV filter for your camera right away, to protect the lens. You will also want an extra battery or two. Some brands better than others so watch out for super-cheap. Stick with one brand of tape from the beginning, and get yourself a cleaning tape pretty soon. Good Luck.

Michael Gibbons · June 30th, 2005, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Costa

Get a UV filter for your camera right away, to protect the lens. You will also want an extra battery or two. Some brands better than others so watch out for super-cheap. Stick with one brand of tape from the beginning, and get yourself a cleaning tape pretty soon. Good Luck.

best advice in a thread full of sound advice- especially the part about sticking to one brand of tape.

Ash Greyson · June 30th, 2005, 12:11 PM

I highly recommend www.taperesources.com, competetive prices and excellent service. Buy tapes in bulk and as noted, dont change brands...

ash =o)

June 29th, 2005, 07:48 AM	#16
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Between gs250 and gs400, I would choose 400 only because it has a ring control for the iris, rather than a touch screen. Touchscreen shooting controls are my biggest PITA with the one-chip I bought. Focus and iris need to be easily accessible, WB can be a touch screen item since you typically set it once per location. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

June 29th, 2005, 08:29 AM	#17
Patrick Jenkins Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 382	I'd give the nod to the 60 as well. You can go to your local BestBuy and try it out (or the 50 - that's what I've seen in stores) to get the feel for it, button placement, etc then go buy online for a better price. I had a GS150 and I've used a GS250 and IMO the Canons are worth a whole lot more (while being cheaper to boot). I've never used a GS400. The only thing that the GS400 (and Panasonics in general) have over an Optura is you can manually control the amount of gain in your image (IMO, not a selling point). The GS400 has a quasi frame as well mode but depending on your view of it deinterlacing could be better (you get interpolated image rather than a frame w/ half the data thrown out). $.02 __________________ PAL shooter in NTSC territory

June 29th, 2005, 09:25 PM	#19
Patrick Jenkins Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 382	Wow, that's an insane price for a laptop like that. Good find! __________________ PAL shooter in NTSC territory

June 30th, 2005, 12:09 AM	#21
Bob Costa Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Venice, FL Posts: 850	Get a UV filter for your camera right away, to protect the lens. You will also want an extra battery or two. Some brands better than others so watch out for super-cheap. Stick with one brand of tape from the beginning, and get yourself a cleaning tape pretty soon. Good Luck. __________________ You are either growing or dying.

June 29th, 2005, 03:10 PM	#18
John Unger New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Thanks to everyone here, we made a decision! Remember, we are beginners and want to learn before getting into the big leagues, but we want a quality product as well. Drum roll please !!!! Camera: Optura 60 (Special Package from B&H) $800 Software: Sony Vegas Movie Studio $99 Computer: We were going to use my laptop, but found an eMachine we couldn't pass up!! I have used an emachine (Gateway makes them) laptop for over a year and it is great. Cheap but can handle what we want: AMD 3400 2.8ghz, 1 GIG RAM, 200 MB 7200 HD, Firewire, Dual Layer DVD, all for $550 bucks.! It should handle the work we want. That will be its only job. Odd and Ends: $400 (Tapes, Mic, Lights) An inexpensive way to start. We will grow when we feel ready. No rush, just practice, practice, read, practice, edit, practice, in no particular order. Thank again. Pretty soon I'l be using sme of the "lingo" around here.

June 29th, 2005, 09:43 PM	#20
John Unger New Boot Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Actually, it is a desktop system. It is too good to pass up. I sold computers for 4 years and Emachines used to be a joke. Since Gateway took over, they have slowly evolved into nice little systems and nobody can touch the price. For starting out, I think they are excellent.

June 30th, 2005, 12:11 PM	#23
Ash Greyson Trustee Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 1,689	I highly recommend www.taperesources.com, competetive prices and excellent service. Buy tapes in bulk and as noted, dont change brands... ash =o)