Single Chip cams with larger lenses at DVinfo.net

Paolo Macachor · May 13th, 2005, 03:43 AM

Is it true that the single chip DV cameras like the Optura models from Canon Or even Digital 8 cameras with larger lenses than that of the HC40 or Canon's ZR's don't get too washed out beyond help? Of course, any camera footage can be aided with brightness & contrast or color curves, but do (to make it particular and a perhaps proper noun) Optura models get less "washed out" upon capture?

Or should I just get these questions out of my head and pursue 3CCD? (but I can't afford it, I even have difficulty affording any Optura cams), although there is a 3CCD model from Sony (The DCR HC1000) that's lesser in price than the Optura xI.

Paolo Macachor · May 13th, 2005, 03:46 AM

Or to summarize my rather incoherent post above - do single CCD cameras with the practically "bigger" lenses (as opposed to the cute ones) get lesser of being washed out upon capture? Or does ANY 1CCD get washed out the same way, regardless of the size of the lens?

Thanks.

Jimmy McKenzie · May 13th, 2005, 04:33 AM

Stay tuned. 3 CCD SD Prosumer cams in fine used condition are going to get cheaper by the end of this year.

Jack Smith · May 13th, 2005, 09:08 AM

There is a lot of difference among cams.Both 1CCD and 3CCD. Typically the larger the CCD and the more of them is best.Some of the Opturas use a RGB color filter which does enhance the picture.Your image being "washed out" could be the result of many things ,lighting being the primary cause and not the camera.A couple questions to ask. Have you tried hands on with a variety? What are you using the cam for? If professional jobs then I suggest using professional gear.Either way try them out in stores ,at video club meetings,etc.

Dylan Couper · May 13th, 2005, 09:19 AM

I think his question is:
WHat is better, a large single CCD, or three tiny CCDs?

Patrick Jenkins · May 13th, 2005, 12:09 PM

IMO (in order)

1. Single large CCD w/ RGB filter.
2. 3 smaller CCDs (3 larger CCDs would be #1, but that's not part of the topic).
3. Single large CCD w/ CMY filter.

I'd take the larger RGB CCD over 3 smaller just for the benefits of the larger area (depth, light, etc). If there was no RGB filter, it's all about 3CCDs.

Laurence Kingston · May 15th, 2005, 08:47 AM

How would you guys compare my TRV20 with a single 1/4" CCD to a PD10 or GS400 with three smaller 1/4.7" CCDs?

May 13th, 2005, 03:46 AM	#2
Paolo Macachor New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 23	Re: 1CCD with larger lenses Or to summarize my rather incoherent post above - do single CCD cameras with the practically "bigger" lenses (as opposed to the cute ones) get lesser of being washed out upon capture? Or does ANY 1CCD get washed out the same way, regardless of the size of the lens? Thanks.

May 13th, 2005, 09:19 AM	#5
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	I think his question is: WHat is better, a large single CCD, or three tiny CCDs? __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

May 13th, 2005, 03:43 AM	#1
Paolo Macachor New Boot Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 23	Single Chip cams with larger lenses Is it true that the single chip DV cameras like the Optura models from Canon Or even Digital 8 cameras with larger lenses than that of the HC40 or Canon's ZR's don't get too washed out beyond help? Of course, any camera footage can be aided with brightness & contrast or color curves, but do (to make it particular and a perhaps proper noun) Optura models get less "washed out" upon capture? Or should I just get these questions out of my head and pursue 3CCD? (but I can't afford it, I even have difficulty affording any Optura cams), although there is a 3CCD model from Sony (The DCR HC1000) that's lesser in price than the Optura xI.

May 13th, 2005, 04:33 AM	#3
Jimmy McKenzie Major Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Waterloo Ontario Posts: 721	Stay tuned. 3 CCD SD Prosumer cams in fine used condition are going to get cheaper by the end of this year.

May 13th, 2005, 09:08 AM	#4
Jack Smith Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ontario Posts: 445	There is a lot of difference among cams.Both 1CCD and 3CCD. Typically the larger the CCD and the more of them is best.Some of the Opturas use a RGB color filter which does enhance the picture.Your image being "washed out" could be the result of many things ,lighting being the primary cause and not the camera.A couple questions to ask. Have you tried hands on with a variety? What are you using the cam for? If professional jobs then I suggest using professional gear.Either way try them out in stores ,at video club meetings,etc.

May 13th, 2005, 12:09 PM	#6
Patrick Jenkins Major Player Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 382	IMO (in order) 1. Single large CCD w/ RGB filter. 2. 3 smaller CCDs (3 larger CCDs would be #1, but that's not part of the topic). 3. Single large CCD w/ CMY filter. I'd take the larger RGB CCD over 3 smaller just for the benefits of the larger area (depth, light, etc). If there was no RGB filter, it's all about 3CCDs.

May 15th, 2005, 08:47 AM	#7
Laurence Kingston Major Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Clermont, FL. Posts: 941	How would you guys compare my TRV20 with a single 1/4" CCD to a PD10 or GS400 with three smaller 1/4.7" CCDs?