Another film challenge from DVDA #2: Umbrella!

Rob Lohman · October 8th, 2002, 03:33 AM

Too bed... hehe. I've have my umbrella already secured. Now I
need some rain (it is sunny atm) and a person to assist me... And
ofcourse time. I think I'm going to shoot some nice reference
plates in Paris... might come in handy. Oh, and my umbrella is
coming along!

Keith Loh · October 28th, 2002, 01:20 PM

- After all day the Umbrella Killa arrives at the party of the bubble drug merchants. The moment of truth. He lifts the umbrella and ... it WILL NOT OPEN.
- Exhausted, after running out to Dylan's truck and running back in with an important floppy disc containing a fake email for the Killa's laptop I impatiently try to enter an extremely antiquated elevator before it has finished completely settling down to ground level. I trip over its lowering bottom and propel myself face first into the elevator. Not only am I injured, the FLOPPY DOES NOT WORK IN THE LAPTOP.
- To "save time" we decide to move the car from our first location to the next street location four city blocks away. Instead, we spend nearly twenty minutes carrying heavy bags and cumbersome equipment around a cavernous underground parking trying to find the car. We resort to speaking to an East Indian security guard who explains the grand unified theory of finding your car in a parking lot which, sums up, means: remember what exit you came in from. After ten minutes of being lectured by this gentlemen we realize that the car is five spaces from where we were standing, talking with this guy.
- After pressuring and cajoling a woman actor to appear in one of the outside scenes we were ourselves late because of 3). She was not pleased.
- Leaving the Umbrella Killa alone with the laptop while trying to download the fake email that is supposed to be stored in the laptop is not a good idea, it seems. While out of the room for five minutes, I return to find that Angus ("the Killa") has DISMANTLED THE LAPTOP ostensibly "to make it better" and IT WILL NOT COME BACK TOGETHER.
- After lecturing people on gun safety I shoot the Killa in the eye with a laser dot sight.
- Panicking and calling everyone I knew to come to the party. I run out into the hall and hammer on my neighbour's door and recruit a morose looking nerd to be in the party scene. I don't get anything out of him. He just sits there. He turns out to be a film student.
- To add silliness to the final party scene I have the gangsters blowing bubbles. But the bubbles I've bought are these new, alien kind of bubbles that you can touch. These leave HIGHLY NOTICEABLE DANDRUFF ALL OVER ANYONE THEY SETTLE ON. At the end of the night there is a coating of nuclear winter over all the furniture and floor.
- One of the only three girls we got for the party scene shows up dressed like a prim college girl with a white collar and red sweater. I immediately launch into a tirade over her clothing (she was supposed to be slutty) which ended with me saying "you don't look like a girl who would be at a party". Finally, Dylan solves this by telling her that 'red doesn't show on DV that well'.
- At the end of the day stabbing myself accidentally with the sword prop

Keith Loh · October 28th, 2002, 01:22 PM

DVDA member R/Kain Blaze has produced the first Umbrella Challenge film. It's freaking hilarious:

http://www.freestylemega.com/move/lone.mov

His commentary here: http://forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/...es?msg=215.176

Keith Loh · October 28th, 2002, 01:34 PM

I've been blogging my trials and tribulations making Umbrella Killa on keithloh.com.

http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/

Dylan Couper · October 28th, 2002, 05:04 PM

Thoughts from Dylan on this...

<<<-- Originally posted by Keith Loh : - After all day the Umbrella Killa arrives at the party of the bubble drug merchants. The moment of truth. He lifts the umbrella and ... it WILL NOT OPEN. "

Solved this problem with what else...
DUCT TAPE. Extended the release cord so the Killa could pull it with one hand.

- To "save time" we decide to move the car from our first location to the next street location four city blocks away. Instead, we spend nearly twenty minutes carrying heavy bags and cumbersome equipment around a cavernous underground parking trying to find the car. We resort to speaking to an East Indian security guard who explains the grand unified theory of finding your car in a parking lot which, sums up, means: remember what exit you came in from. After ten minutes of being lectured by this gentlemen we realize that the car is five spaces from where we were standing, talking with this guy.

THAT WAS FUNNY!!! This is basically exactly how Keith described it. Except the guard kept explaining it to us as we were loading our gear into the back of the car.

- After pressuring and cajoling a woman actor to appear in one of the outside scenes we were ourselves late because of 3). She was not pleased.

Wasn't she supposed to meet up with us at the Subway 2 hours earlier? I blame her.

- After lecturing people on gun safety I shoot the Killa in the eye with a laser dot sight.

"It's funny 'cause it's not me." -Homer Simpson

- Panicking and calling everyone I knew to come to the party. I run out into the hall and hammer on my neighbour's door and recruit a morose looking nerd to be in the party scene. I don't get anything out of him. He just sits there. He turns out to be a film student.

Stupid nerd. He'll never work in this town again!

- To add silliness to the final party scene I have the gangsters blowing bubbles. But the bubbles I've bought are these new, alien kind of bubbles that you can touch. These leave HIGHLY NOTICEABLE DANDRUFF ALL OVER ANYONE THEY SETTLE ON. At the end of the night there is a coating of nuclear winter over all the furniture and floor.

I can't get it out of my clothes! I think I made the funniest comment of the day about that, but it's much to rude to be repeated here in polite company. Y'all can guess what it was, but it was probably even ruder than that.

- One of the only three girls we got for the party scene shows up dressed like a prim college girl with a white collar and red sweater. I immediately launch into a tirade over her clothing (she was supposed to be slutty) which ended with me saying "you don't look like a girl who would be at a party". Finally, Dylan solves this by telling her that 'red doesn't show on DV that well'.

Then I also said "What Keith is to polite to say is he'd like you to dress more like a hooker." So she did. In a very nice shade of blue.

Anyway, I can't believe we got it all done in one day. I am so friggen tired. Going to bed now.

Keith Loh · October 29th, 2002, 01:30 AM

http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/gallery.html

All this great looking stuff is due to Dylan Couper. Dude, you rock.

Dylan Couper · October 29th, 2002, 08:47 PM

Thanks Keith (blush)
I just checked out the footage. I'm really, REALLY surprised how light the party scene was. It looked much darker through your viewfinder (which is what I was going for). Glad I gelled the lights down. It'll be really interesting to see how it comes together.
I'd like to point out to everyone that even though we had my light kit there, we only used the apartment lights. This was a combination of lack of space, time, and Keith and I being too exhausted to move by the time we got to the inside stuff.

Just so all the forum readers know, the guy with the shaved head in this pic

http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/screencaps/unsuspecting.jpg

is our very own Keith Loh. Director, producer AND actor! Whatta guy... ;)

Aaron Koolen · October 29th, 2002, 11:17 PM

Hey Keith, when do the umbrella entries close, or have they already?

Rob Lohman · October 30th, 2002, 10:25 AM

Bugger.... I'm just reading you guys are voting for an extension.
I wish I'd know that earlier. I just spend a whole weekend doing
nothing more or less (to rest). I didn't had any time due to lots and
lots of work and doing Paris. So if I had known.... What is the
new deadline if you guys moved it?

Keith Loh · October 30th, 2002, 11:49 AM

I'm not exactly sure when we will close it out. Everyone is extremely busy in life and other opportunities. I think we will close it out when we get more than two entries. And here I am getting ahead of myself seeing as I haven't even edited my entry yet.

So, I would say, do your Umbrella film. The Bathroom film challenge trickled in two weeks later than our second extention, I believe. :)

Keith Loh · October 30th, 2002, 11:51 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Dylan Couper : Thanks Keith (blush)
I just checked out the footage. I'm really, REALLY surprised how light the party scene was. It looked much darker through your viewfinder (which is what I was going for). Glad I gelled the lights down. It'll be really interesting to see how it comes together.
I'd like to point out to everyone that even though we had my light kit there, we only used the apartment lights. This was a combination of lack of space, time, and Keith and I being too exhausted to move by the time we got to the inside stuff.
-->>>

Actually, having that apartment light on was key. All the filming on that side of the room was sharp but the dark areas were pretty grainy. Especially near that bookcase. I will attempt to edit around them.

Aaron Koolen · October 30th, 2002, 06:06 PM

Keith, ok I'll try and get something done - I had an idea this morning while I was brushing my teeth :). I have a directing/producing course over the next two weekends so time will be short, but I hope I can find some time - it should be a blast. Might have to be a camera and tripod only shoot! (No lights, sounds anything :) )

Where do I go to submit it?

Keith Loh · October 30th, 2002, 06:34 PM

forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/start/.

You'll have to register in Delphi (free).

The thread to look for is this one:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/messages?msg=215.37

Glad to see some more try this.

Keith Loh · November 2nd, 2002, 02:59 PM

I've posted the first outtake from 'Umbrella Killa' up on keithloh.com. It's a clip that Dylan has been bugging me to see since we wrapped up.

http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/clips/index.html

I think it's a great steadi-shot. Pretty soon Dylan is going to be shooting his own version of "The Russian Ark".

Dylan Couper · November 3rd, 2002, 12:42 AM

Hey, that's better than I thought it would be. Hard to tell how smooth it is though, cut down to web format and all. Do you notice my footsteps at all in the full size version?

What Keith didn't say is that that was the 4th take we did, and we shot that one in a hurry as there was a security guard sitting in his big pickup truck wanting to drive through the alley. He graciously waited while we did the last one. I wanted to do one more to do the running spot differently, but I think Keith and I both decided it would be better not to push the generosity of the security guard. We got out of there before he asked to see our shooting permit. :)

October 8th, 2002, 03:33 AM	#16
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Too bed... hehe. I've have my umbrella already secured. Now I need some rain (it is sunny atm) and a person to assist me... And ofcourse time. I think I'm going to shoot some nice reference plates in Paris... might come in handy. Oh, and my umbrella is coming along! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 28th, 2002, 01:20 PM	#17
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Classic moments in my DVDA Umbrella film shoot - After all day the Umbrella Killa arrives at the party of the bubble drug merchants. The moment of truth. He lifts the umbrella and ... it WILL NOT OPEN. - Exhausted, after running out to Dylan's truck and running back in with an important floppy disc containing a fake email for the Killa's laptop I impatiently try to enter an extremely antiquated elevator before it has finished completely settling down to ground level. I trip over its lowering bottom and propel myself face first into the elevator. Not only am I injured, the FLOPPY DOES NOT WORK IN THE LAPTOP. - To "save time" we decide to move the car from our first location to the next street location four city blocks away. Instead, we spend nearly twenty minutes carrying heavy bags and cumbersome equipment around a cavernous underground parking trying to find the car. We resort to speaking to an East Indian security guard who explains the grand unified theory of finding your car in a parking lot which, sums up, means: remember what exit you came in from. After ten minutes of being lectured by this gentlemen we realize that the car is five spaces from where we were standing, talking with this guy. - After pressuring and cajoling a woman actor to appear in one of the outside scenes we were ourselves late because of 3). She was not pleased. - Leaving the Umbrella Killa alone with the laptop while trying to download the fake email that is supposed to be stored in the laptop is not a good idea, it seems. While out of the room for five minutes, I return to find that Angus ("the Killa") has DISMANTLED THE LAPTOP ostensibly "to make it better" and IT WILL NOT COME BACK TOGETHER. - After lecturing people on gun safety I shoot the Killa in the eye with a laser dot sight. - Panicking and calling everyone I knew to come to the party. I run out into the hall and hammer on my neighbour's door and recruit a morose looking nerd to be in the party scene. I don't get anything out of him. He just sits there. He turns out to be a film student. - To add silliness to the final party scene I have the gangsters blowing bubbles. But the bubbles I've bought are these new, alien kind of bubbles that you can touch. These leave HIGHLY NOTICEABLE DANDRUFF ALL OVER ANYONE THEY SETTLE ON. At the end of the night there is a coating of nuclear winter over all the furniture and floor. - One of the only three girls we got for the party scene shows up dressed like a prim college girl with a white collar and red sweater. I immediately launch into a tirade over her clothing (she was supposed to be slutty) which ended with me saying "you don't look like a girl who would be at a party". Finally, Dylan solves this by telling her that 'red doesn't show on DV that well'. - At the end of the day stabbing myself accidentally with the sword prop __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 28th, 2002, 01:22 PM	#18
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	First DVDA movie in DVDA member R/Kain Blaze has produced the first Umbrella Challenge film. It's freaking hilarious: http://www.freestylemega.com/move/lone.mov His commentary here: http://forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/...es?msg=215.176 __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 28th, 2002, 01:34 PM	#19
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	My Umbrella Killa blog I've been blogging my trials and tribulations making Umbrella Killa on keithloh.com. http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/ __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 28th, 2002, 05:04 PM	#20
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Re: Classic moments in my DVDA Umbrella film shoot Thoughts from Dylan on this... <<<-- Originally posted by Keith Loh : - After all day the Umbrella Killa arrives at the party of the bubble drug merchants. The moment of truth. He lifts the umbrella and ... it WILL NOT OPEN. " Solved this problem with what else... DUCT TAPE. Extended the release cord so the Killa could pull it with one hand. - To "save time" we decide to move the car from our first location to the next street location four city blocks away. Instead, we spend nearly twenty minutes carrying heavy bags and cumbersome equipment around a cavernous underground parking trying to find the car. We resort to speaking to an East Indian security guard who explains the grand unified theory of finding your car in a parking lot which, sums up, means: remember what exit you came in from. After ten minutes of being lectured by this gentlemen we realize that the car is five spaces from where we were standing, talking with this guy. THAT WAS FUNNY!!! This is basically exactly how Keith described it. Except the guard kept explaining it to us as we were loading our gear into the back of the car. - After pressuring and cajoling a woman actor to appear in one of the outside scenes we were ourselves late because of 3). She was not pleased. Wasn't she supposed to meet up with us at the Subway 2 hours earlier? I blame her. - After lecturing people on gun safety I shoot the Killa in the eye with a laser dot sight. "It's funny 'cause it's not me." -Homer Simpson - Panicking and calling everyone I knew to come to the party. I run out into the hall and hammer on my neighbour's door and recruit a morose looking nerd to be in the party scene. I don't get anything out of him. He just sits there. He turns out to be a film student. Stupid nerd. He'll never work in this town again! - To add silliness to the final party scene I have the gangsters blowing bubbles. But the bubbles I've bought are these new, alien kind of bubbles that you can touch. These leave HIGHLY NOTICEABLE DANDRUFF ALL OVER ANYONE THEY SETTLE ON. At the end of the night there is a coating of nuclear winter over all the furniture and floor. I can't get it out of my clothes! I think I made the funniest comment of the day about that, but it's much to rude to be repeated here in polite company. Y'all can guess what it was, but it was probably even ruder than that. - One of the only three girls we got for the party scene shows up dressed like a prim college girl with a white collar and red sweater. I immediately launch into a tirade over her clothing (she was supposed to be slutty) which ended with me saying "you don't look like a girl who would be at a party". Finally, Dylan solves this by telling her that 'red doesn't show on DV that well'. Then I also said "What Keith is to polite to say is he'd like you to dress more like a hooker." So she did. In a very nice shade of blue. Anyway, I can't believe we got it all done in one day. I am so friggen tired. Going to bed now.

October 29th, 2002, 01:30 AM	#21
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Stills gallery from "Umbrella Killa" up http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/gallery.html All this great looking stuff is due to Dylan Couper. Dude, you rock. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 29th, 2002, 08:47 PM	#22
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Thanks Keith (blush) I just checked out the footage. I'm really, REALLY surprised how light the party scene was. It looked much darker through your viewfinder (which is what I was going for). Glad I gelled the lights down. It'll be really interesting to see how it comes together. I'd like to point out to everyone that even though we had my light kit there, we only used the apartment lights. This was a combination of lack of space, time, and Keith and I being too exhausted to move by the time we got to the inside stuff. Just so all the forum readers know, the guy with the shaved head in this pic http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/screencaps/unsuspecting.jpg is our very own Keith Loh. Director, producer AND actor! Whatta guy... ;)

October 29th, 2002, 11:17 PM	#23
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Hey Keith, when do the umbrella entries close, or have they already?

October 30th, 2002, 10:25 AM	#24
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Bugger.... I'm just reading you guys are voting for an extension. I wish I'd know that earlier. I just spend a whole weekend doing nothing more or less (to rest). I didn't had any time due to lots and lots of work and doing Paris. So if I had known.... What is the new deadline if you guys moved it? __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 30th, 2002, 11:49 AM	#25
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Get your Umbrella Films in I'm not exactly sure when we will close it out. Everyone is extremely busy in life and other opportunities. I think we will close it out when we get more than two entries. And here I am getting ahead of myself seeing as I haven't even edited my entry yet. So, I would say, do your Umbrella film. The Bathroom film challenge trickled in two weeks later than our second extention, I believe. :) __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 30th, 2002, 11:51 AM	#26
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	<<<-- Originally posted by Dylan Couper : Thanks Keith (blush) I just checked out the footage. I'm really, REALLY surprised how light the party scene was. It looked much darker through your viewfinder (which is what I was going for). Glad I gelled the lights down. It'll be really interesting to see how it comes together. I'd like to point out to everyone that even though we had my light kit there, we only used the apartment lights. This was a combination of lack of space, time, and Keith and I being too exhausted to move by the time we got to the inside stuff. -->>> Actually, having that apartment light on was key. All the filming on that side of the room was sharp but the dark areas were pretty grainy. Especially near that bookcase. I will attempt to edit around them. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

October 30th, 2002, 06:06 PM	#27
Aaron Koolen Trustee Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,727	Keith, ok I'll try and get something done - I had an idea this morning while I was brushing my teeth :). I have a directing/producing course over the next two weekends so time will be short, but I hope I can find some time - it should be a blast. Might have to be a camera and tripod only shoot! (No lights, sounds anything :) ) Where do I go to submit it?

October 30th, 2002, 06:34 PM	#28
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	Submitting your Umbrella movie forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/start/. You'll have to register in Delphi (free). The thread to look for is this one: http://forums.delphiforums.com/dvda/messages?msg=215.37 Glad to see some more try this. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

November 2nd, 2002, 02:59 PM	#29
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	First clip of "Umbrella Killa" now up I've posted the first outtake from 'Umbrella Killa' up on keithloh.com. It's a clip that Dylan has been bugging me to see since we wrapped up. http://www.keithloh.com/video/umbrella/clips/index.html I think it's a great steadi-shot. Pretty soon Dylan is going to be shooting his own version of "The Russian Ark". __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

November 3rd, 2002, 12:42 AM	#30
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Hey, that's better than I thought it would be. Hard to tell how smooth it is though, cut down to web format and all. Do you notice my footsteps at all in the full size version? What Keith didn't say is that that was the 4th take we did, and we shot that one in a hurry as there was a security guard sitting in his big pickup truck wanting to drive through the alley. He graciously waited while we did the last one. I wanted to do one more to do the running spot differently, but I think Keith and I both decided it would be better not to push the generosity of the security guard. We got out of there before he asked to see our shooting permit. :)