PAL recording of NTSC monitors at DVinfo.net

August 13th, 2002, 06:13 PM

Hello.

I'm planning on shooting a movie w/ a PAL XL1-S. Several of the scenes have the main character sitting in a studio booth, watching other characters through two NTSC monitors. The problem is, we need to see what he's looking at by getting close-ups of the two NTSC monitors.

Will a PAL XL1-S with progressive scan have any distortion when recording video shown on an NTSC monitor? If so, is there a way to correct this, aside from swapping-in PAL monitors?

Will the resulting footage have trouble if it's later transferred to 35mm?

Thanks!

Jeff Donald · August 13th, 2002, 07:12 PM

My best guess is the NTSC monitors will not look as good, the edit will be harder, and you'll waste some time on this scene in production and post. My first choice would be to rent a couple of PAL monitors, after that it'll be trial and error. NTSC might work with some effort and loss of quality, picture in picture might work (do the effect in post). A computer monitor might work with the variable scan feature. Anybody tried this?

Jeff

Jon Eriksson · August 15th, 2002, 03:05 AM

I can't see how the different systems (PAL/NTSC) would make any difference when shot from a monitor since it is mainly a difference in the video harware - visually it comes out the same and the main concern should be the ClearScan (ie what herz is the monitor your shooting on...).

I can't see there would be any difference than shooting a computer monitor. Nor have I seen any problems when European tv has done documentaries/reports from the states and filmed TV screens.

Regards
Jon

Margus Kivilaan · August 15th, 2002, 03:45 AM

i don't have much experience in such things, but my stomich says you will not have flickerless picture. recently i tried to shoot 60hz LCD screen with PAL camera, i had to reduce shutter speed down to 1/12, and still some flicker remained. higher level cameras have clearscan function, which could help, but price of such cameras goes skyhigh.

regards, Margus

August 13th, 2002, 06:13 PM	#1
jpjeanne Posts: n/a	PAL recording of NTSC monitors Hello. I'm planning on shooting a movie w/ a PAL XL1-S. Several of the scenes have the main character sitting in a studio booth, watching other characters through two NTSC monitors. The problem is, we need to see what he's looking at by getting close-ups of the two NTSC monitors. Will a PAL XL1-S with progressive scan have any distortion when recording video shown on an NTSC monitor? If so, is there a way to correct this, aside from swapping-in PAL monitors? Will the resulting footage have trouble if it's later transferred to 35mm? Thanks!

August 15th, 2002, 03:05 AM	#3
Jon Eriksson Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 42	I can't see how the different systems (PAL/NTSC) would make any difference when shot from a monitor since it is mainly a difference in the video harware - visually it comes out the same and the main concern should be the ClearScan (ie what herz is the monitor your shooting on...). I can't see there would be any difference than shooting a computer monitor. Nor have I seen any problems when European tv has done documentaries/reports from the states and filmed TV screens. Regards Jon __________________ Real Men do not Preview

August 13th, 2002, 07:12 PM	#2
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	My best guess is the NTSC monitors will not look as good, the edit will be harder, and you'll waste some time on this scene in production and post. My first choice would be to rent a couple of PAL monitors, after that it'll be trial and error. NTSC might work with some effort and loss of quality, picture in picture might work (do the effect in post). A computer monitor might work with the variable scan feature. Anybody tried this? Jeff

August 15th, 2002, 03:45 AM	#4
Margus Kivilaan Regular Crew Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Posts: 123	i don't have much experience in such things, but my stomich says you will not have flickerless picture. recently i tried to shoot 60hz LCD screen with PAL camera, i had to reduce shutter speed down to 1/12, and still some flicker remained. higher level cameras have clearscan function, which could help, but price of such cameras goes skyhigh. regards, Margus