how would i add somthing similar to these 2 things to my movies? at DVinfo.net

Gavin Thomas · May 31st, 2004, 10:18 AM

hi

below is 2 screenshots from 'The Lizzie McGuire Movie' basically is what i would like to do is somthing similar to the numbers at the top and bottom to my movie to help me and then take it off when i finish the movie, (will also look good 2 leave on for dvd special features, hehe)

http://www.rtne02233.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PDVD_005.jpg
http://www.rtne02233.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PDVD_004.jpg

i hope someone could really help me, MANY THANKS!

Aaron Banks · May 31st, 2004, 10:26 AM

I belive thats something that 35mm film cameras do, I have no idea how you could do it elsewise.

Gavin Thomas · May 31st, 2004, 10:38 AM

ok thanks, just needed to know, cheers.

Leon Ortiz-Gil · May 31st, 2004, 10:54 AM

The K# you see is called the Key Number. It is used for the negative cutters when you complete the movie on FILM. That same number is burned on the edge of the film and mathces the video you see. If you shot it on film then the post house can add it. If you shot it on DV then you could fake it using a title tool. You would also have to have your image in 16x9 or compressed to have it in the black. Otherwise you could add it to the top and/or bottom frame. The other time code that has the hour 13 timecode is your tape or reel timecode. Depending on the Editing software you have you may be able to do a burn in of that timecode. I know on FCP you can.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · May 31st, 2004, 11:37 AM

Gavin,
You could letterbox your footage into a 4:3 frame so that you have the black area top and bottom to work with.
As Leon says, you can then burn in your timecode. You can generate your own with a little programme called SMPTE Timecode generator at http://www.2writers.com/download.htm
You can specify start and stop values for your timecode, which is generated as a series of bitmaps. You then import this file into your editing software and key it in to the frame wherever you want it.
I've used it for creating visible timecode for adding subtitles, so I know it works.
Well, it's one solution anyway...

Robin.

Gavin Thomas · May 31st, 2004, 07:27 PM

Hi Robin Davies-Rollinson,

can you post a sample of the numbers working on a piece of your work production.

Many Thanks

Robin Davies-Rollinson · June 1st, 2004, 11:16 AM

Gavin,
As promised, some frame-grabs.
You can of course position the timecode wherever you want to, as well as adjust the size and even the colour of it's background.

http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/..._letterbox.jpg

http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/..._test_16_9.jpg

Regards,

Robin.

Gavin Thomas · June 1st, 2004, 11:29 AM

Thank you very much Robin!

Regards.

May 31st, 2004, 10:18 AM	#1
Gavin Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	how would i add somthing similar to these 2 things to my movies? hi below is 2 screenshots from 'The Lizzie McGuire Movie' basically is what i would like to do is somthing similar to the numbers at the top and bottom to my movie to help me and then take it off when i finish the movie, (will also look good 2 leave on for dvd special features, hehe) http://www.rtne02233.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PDVD_005.jpg http://www.rtne02233.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/PDVD_004.jpg i hope someone could really help me, MANY THANKS!

May 31st, 2004, 10:26 AM	#2
Aaron Banks New Boot Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 19	I belive thats something that 35mm film cameras do, I have no idea how you could do it elsewise.

May 31st, 2004, 10:38 AM	#3
Gavin Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	ok thanks, just needed to know, cheers.

May 31st, 2004, 10:54 AM	#4
Leon Ortiz-Gil New Boot Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northridge, CA Posts: 11	The K# you see is called the Key Number. It is used for the negative cutters when you complete the movie on FILM. That same number is burned on the edge of the film and mathces the video you see. If you shot it on film then the post house can add it. If you shot it on DV then you could fake it using a title tool. You would also have to have your image in 16x9 or compressed to have it in the black. Otherwise you could add it to the top and/or bottom frame. The other time code that has the hour 13 timecode is your tape or reel timecode. Depending on the Editing software you have you may be able to do a burn in of that timecode. I know on FCP you can.

May 31st, 2004, 11:37 AM	#5
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Gavin, You could letterbox your footage into a 4:3 frame so that you have the black area top and bottom to work with. As Leon says, you can then burn in your timecode. You can generate your own with a little programme called SMPTE Timecode generator at http://www.2writers.com/download.htm You can specify start and stop values for your timecode, which is generated as a series of bitmaps. You then import this file into your editing software and key it in to the frame wherever you want it. I've used it for creating visible timecode for adding subtitles, so I know it works. Well, it's one solution anyway... Robin.

May 31st, 2004, 07:27 PM	#6
Gavin Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	Hi Robin Davies-Rollinson, can you post a sample of the numbers working on a piece of your work production. Many Thanks

June 1st, 2004, 11:16 AM	#7
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	Gavin, As promised, some frame-grabs. You can of course position the timecode wherever you want to, as well as adjust the size and even the colour of it's background. http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/..._letterbox.jpg http://img45.photobucket.com/albums/..._test_16_9.jpg Regards, Robin.

June 1st, 2004, 11:29 AM	#8
Gavin Thomas Regular Crew Join Date: May 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 64	Thank you very much Robin! Regards.