pre-roll for broadcast spot at DVinfo.net

Devin Doyle · May 12th, 2004, 09:10 AM

Hey all, I've got a question regarding the "industry standard" for pre-roll when it's going out to broadcast. We've just completed a 30 second spot for a client, and are soon dubbing it to Beta SP for broadcast. I seem to remember from my internship that this was the order of things:

1. Slate (Client, Date, RT) - no idea how long this should appear on screen, 5 seconds?
2. 5 seconds of color bars w/ tone
3. 15 frames of black
4. 29 second spot
5. 15 frames of black

I'm assuming this is going on a digital system, but don't really have that much more info. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

Rob Wilson · May 12th, 2004, 09:42 AM

Devin

5 seconds of slate is probably good, I usually just put a slate over my 30 seconds of bars/tone. Thats followed by an 8 second count with tone at 2 seconds and a very fast fade from black to the spot. I also run 30 or so seconds of black following the spot, 15 frames doesn't give them much room when editing. Might want to add your contact info in the slate in case they (folks in the edit bays) have a question.

Robin Davies-Rollinson · May 12th, 2004, 10:14 AM

I've always put down 30 seconds of bars and tone, followed by VT clock with all info text on it and with a blip of tone at 10 seconds. Go to black at 3 seconds, programme start at 0.
Mind you, this is UK standard, might be different across the pond ;-)

Robin.

Devin Doyle · May 12th, 2004, 10:30 AM

Thanks for your insight gentleman, it's much appreciated!

Edward Natale · May 12th, 2004, 03:08 PM

I've done probably over 100 commercials and I've never had any complaints.

First 10 seconds of black at the head of the tape, then 30 seconds of bars and tone, 2 seconds of black, 5 seconds of slate, 2 more seconds of black, then the spot, then 10 seconds of black at the tail.

Anything shorter than 30 seconds of bars and tone can be frustrating for the "technician" dubbing the footage into the system since the tape needs to be playing while they adjust their audio levels, but thats more of a courtesy than a "standard".

Eddie

Jeff Donald · May 12th, 2004, 09:36 PM

I did a search for TRT and these three threads will tell you how it's done for broadcast.

Devin Doyle · May 13th, 2004, 03:19 PM

Thanks Edward and Jeff, from all the varying methods I feel a bit more relaxed. Wasn't sure if there was a "standard" that I was to follow. Thanks again guys!

May 12th, 2004, 09:10 AM	#1
Devin Doyle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 188	pre-roll for broadcast spot Hey all, I've got a question regarding the "industry standard" for pre-roll when it's going out to broadcast. We've just completed a 30 second spot for a client, and are soon dubbing it to Beta SP for broadcast. I seem to remember from my internship that this was the order of things: 1. Slate (Client, Date, RT) - no idea how long this should appear on screen, 5 seconds? 2. 5 seconds of color bars w/ tone 3. 15 frames of black 4. 29 second spot 5. 15 frames of black I'm assuming this is going on a digital system, but don't really have that much more info. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! __________________ http://devin.par-t-com.net

May 12th, 2004, 10:30 AM	#4
Devin Doyle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 188	Thanks for your insight gentleman, it's much appreciated! __________________ http://devin.par-t-com.net

May 12th, 2004, 09:36 PM	#6
Jeff Donald Warden Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 8,287	I did a search for TRT and these three threads will tell you how it's done for broadcast. __________________ Jeff Donald Carpe Diem Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Where to Buy? From the best in the business: DVinfo.net sponsors

May 13th, 2004, 03:19 PM	#7
Devin Doyle Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 188	Thanks Edward and Jeff, from all the varying methods I feel a bit more relaxed. Wasn't sure if there was a "standard" that I was to follow. Thanks again guys! __________________ http://devin.par-t-com.net

May 12th, 2004, 09:42 AM	#2
Rob Wilson Major Player Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 473	Devin 5 seconds of slate is probably good, I usually just put a slate over my 30 seconds of bars/tone. Thats followed by an 8 second count with tone at 2 seconds and a very fast fade from black to the spot. I also run 30 or so seconds of black following the spot, 15 frames doesn't give them much room when editing. Might want to add your contact info in the slate in case they (folks in the edit bays) have a question.

May 12th, 2004, 10:14 AM	#3
Robin Davies-Rollinson Trustee Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Gwaelod-y-garth, Cardiff, CYMRU/WALES Posts: 1,215	I've always put down 30 seconds of bars and tone, followed by VT clock with all info text on it and with a blip of tone at 10 seconds. Go to black at 3 seconds, programme start at 0. Mind you, this is UK standard, might be different across the pond ;-) Robin.

May 12th, 2004, 03:08 PM	#5
Edward Natale Regular Crew Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 43	I've done probably over 100 commercials and I've never had any complaints. First 10 seconds of black at the head of the tape, then 30 seconds of bars and tone, 2 seconds of black, 5 seconds of slate, 2 more seconds of black, then the spot, then 10 seconds of black at the tail. Anything shorter than 30 seconds of bars and tone can be frustrating for the "technician" dubbing the footage into the system since the tape needs to be playing while they adjust their audio levels, but thats more of a courtesy than a "standard". Eddie