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Nawaf Alali · May 9th, 2004, 06:26 AM

Usually, the director is the one who comes up with the idea for a video clip. but what if the singer himself comes up with the whole idea? what is he called then? Co-Director? (assuming there will be a director to do all the technical detailed shots)

Dmitri Henry · May 9th, 2004, 10:16 AM

Director assistant maybe? Though he would be more responsible of moving the shoot on and keeping up with the schedule. I expect director's assistant to handle things around in a realistic manner unlike the director who wouldn't compromise for anything.
Whenever producers influence the film, director's vision is already compromised heh, same goes for cinematography. From the book of Blain Brown a circle of confusion can be the measurement of the point of light until it becomes unacceptably big or it can be when couple of producers sit in a circle and discuss cinematography. I am a bit rude today heh.

Mike Rehmus · May 9th, 2004, 11:02 AM

A Director directs the production phase of the overall program. That person may also play other roles and will work in their Director's capacity during pre- and post-production.

The source of the idea is not necessarily a title at all.

You see this all the time in movie credits:

Based on the book by . . .
Based on the play by . . .

or something similar.

Patricia Kim · May 9th, 2004, 01:55 PM

How about "Creative Inspiration: ..."?

Rob Belics · May 9th, 2004, 02:05 PM

What do you mean by 'clip'? If you mean a shot as part of a whole then he probably wouldn't get anything.

But you said "the whole thing" which I guess means a whole music video, for example. He would then get a producers title, depending on his level of involvement, or a writers title or maybe a "created by" credit.

Keith Loh · May 9th, 2004, 02:29 PM

I've never seen a credit for that person on a video.

Bill Pryor · May 10th, 2004, 08:47 AM

On the old Star Trek series there was always a title, "Created by Gene Roddenberry." I've seen "original concept by..." and "original story by...".

Keith Loh · May 10th, 2004, 09:47 AM

But he is talking about a music video.

Bill Pryor · May 10th, 2004, 09:55 AM

I don't see why he couldn't give whatever credits he wants on a music video.

Keith Loh · May 10th, 2004, 11:13 AM

He can do whatever he wants. But he asked what that person normally is called on a music video. And the credit list just isn't that long on a music video. If this is for someone's resume, they can put whatever they want on it. On a music video, people wear a lot more hats than on a a larger production. So they can be caterer / assistant producer / grip / driver / security / bug wrangler if they want.

Nawaf Alali · May 11th, 2004, 07:02 AM

thanx for the reply everyone.
well, if the person says: "do a video clip in the desert", then he probably won't get any credits for that (it's too general). But I'm talking about a detailed idea. for example: "the man start walking towards the girl, she turns around, giving him attitude...etc".
i think "original concept by" would be alright. "Director assistant" would be too much, coz he won't be helping the director during the production.

Richard Alvarez · May 11th, 2004, 07:14 AM

Remember when the boulder comes rolling out of the cave towards Indiana Jones...

Somebody wrote that.

Credits on music videos, as Keith says are generally limited to Director and/or producer. But the person who "Comes up with the idea" is basically the writer... whether or not they take the time to write it down. "Story by" is good for longer forms, or "Conceived by" might be good if the artist has the concept, sketches out the scenario, turns it over to the writer/director to flesh out the details.

May 9th, 2004, 06:26 AM	#1
Nawaf Alali Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kuwait, Kuwait Posts: 100	what do u call the person who comes up with the idea? Usually, the director is the one who comes up with the idea for a video clip. but what if the singer himself comes up with the whole idea? what is he called then? Co-Director? (assuming there will be a director to do all the technical detailed shots)

May 9th, 2004, 11:02 AM	#3
Mike Rehmus Wrangler Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vallejo, California Posts: 4,049	A Director directs the production phase of the overall program. That person may also play other roles and will work in their Director's capacity during pre- and post-production. The source of the idea is not necessarily a title at all. You see this all the time in movie credits: Based on the book by . . . Based on the play by . . . or something similar. __________________ Mike Rehmus Hey, I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel!

May 9th, 2004, 02:29 PM	#6
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	I've never seen a credit for that person on a video. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 10th, 2004, 09:47 AM	#8
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	But he is talking about a music video. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 10th, 2004, 11:13 AM	#10
Keith Loh Air China Pilot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 2,389	He can do whatever he wants. But he asked what that person normally is called on a music video. And the credit list just isn't that long on a music video. If this is for someone's resume, they can put whatever they want on it. On a music video, people wear a lot more hats than on a a larger production. So they can be caterer / assistant producer / grip / driver / security / bug wrangler if they want. __________________ -- Visit http://www.KeithLoh.com \| stuff about living in Vancouver \| My Flickr photo gallery

May 9th, 2004, 10:16 AM	#2
Dmitri Henry Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NC Posts: 34	Director assistant maybe? Though he would be more responsible of moving the shoot on and keeping up with the schedule. I expect director's assistant to handle things around in a realistic manner unlike the director who wouldn't compromise for anything. Whenever producers influence the film, director's vision is already compromised heh, same goes for cinematography. From the book of Blain Brown a circle of confusion can be the measurement of the point of light until it becomes unacceptably big or it can be when couple of producers sit in a circle and discuss cinematography. I am a bit rude today heh.

May 9th, 2004, 01:55 PM	#4
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	How about "Creative Inspiration: ..."?

May 9th, 2004, 02:05 PM	#5
Rob Belics Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 581	What do you mean by 'clip'? If you mean a shot as part of a whole then he probably wouldn't get anything. But you said "the whole thing" which I guess means a whole music video, for example. He would then get a producers title, depending on his level of involvement, or a writers title or maybe a "created by" credit.

May 10th, 2004, 08:47 AM	#7
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	On the old Star Trek series there was always a title, "Created by Gene Roddenberry." I've seen "original concept by..." and "original story by...".

May 10th, 2004, 09:55 AM	#9
Bill Pryor Contributor Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 4,449	I don't see why he couldn't give whatever credits he wants on a music video.

May 11th, 2004, 07:02 AM	#11
Nawaf Alali Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kuwait, Kuwait Posts: 100	thanx for the reply everyone. well, if the person says: "do a video clip in the desert", then he probably won't get any credits for that (it's too general). But I'm talking about a detailed idea. for example: "the man start walking towards the girl, she turns around, giving him attitude...etc". i think "original concept by" would be alright. "Director assistant" would be too much, coz he won't be helping the director during the production.

May 11th, 2004, 07:14 AM	#12
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Remember when the boulder comes rolling out of the cave towards Indiana Jones... Somebody wrote that. Credits on music videos, as Keith says are generally limited to Director and/or producer. But the person who "Comes up with the idea" is basically the writer... whether or not they take the time to write it down. "Story by" is good for longer forms, or "Conceived by" might be good if the artist has the concept, sketches out the scenario, turns it over to the writer/director to flesh out the details.