NAB not offering much at DVinfo.net

Ben Gurvich · April 21st, 2004, 06:14 AM

My first time of knowing about NAB. The way people built it up, i thought there would be announcements of HDV product lines from Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Canon. Also i thougth we'd here of an XL2-HDV.

Am i missing something, or has nothing really been anounced?

Cheers
Ben Gurvich

Nick Kerpchar · April 21st, 2004, 06:42 AM

Ben, I was thinking the same thing. Last year's NAB appeared to be a "Ho Hum" for prosumer announcements and this year appears to be, "Ho Hum - Part 2". The reports by Adam Burtle in the Digital Video Industry News category of this forum really covers a wide area but of more interest to users of high end equipment as opposed to us below $5K users.

Adam's reports are really great and he gets my kudos for taking the time to share comments and pics with us. Unfortunately, IMHO, the cam producers dropped the ball .... you can't report on something that is not there.

Oh well, there's always "Area 51".

Nick

Rob Lohman · April 21st, 2004, 09:11 AM

Ben: you must have been mis-reading a lot of posts. Yes, people
eagerly await NAB and the product announcements they HOPE
will be featured there.

The team behind DVInfo.net has said time and time again that
nothing is sure until it is announced. We even said we didn't
think Canon would announce a succesor to the XL1S @ NAB.

To take that example. No-one knows whether it exists or if it
is called XL2, has HDV or when it will be announced / released.
Anyone that does know cannot talk about it. What you have been
reading is the HYPE and the HOPE people had of seeing an XL2
at NAB.

You should never trust someone's word on when something will
be announced or when it should be available. Wait for the
announcement itself since: it will tell you what you need to know.

I'm sorry NAB is turning out to be dissapointing. Take hype and
hope with a grain of salt!

Dylan Couper · April 21st, 2004, 01:19 PM

Backing up Rob here.

Alot of people may be upset by the fact that the major DV camera comanies have not released HDV cams. Sure, I'm dissapointed too, but in no way can I hold anyone but myself at fault. We've tried to squah any rumours or hype about new cameras for months.
Remember, no manufacturer promised new HDV cameras, only people on the internet. This should serve as a good example as to how much faith should be put in posts that start with "I've got a good source that says..."

BTW
I'm constantly dissapointed Ferrari doesn't realease a 500hp convertible for under $40,000. Can I blame Ferrari?
Sure. :)
Is it really their fault?
Sure. :)
Should they give me a free Ferrari?
Hell yes. :)

Joe Lloyd · April 21st, 2004, 09:30 PM

40,000 per month and its yours..... ;P

Chris Hurd · April 22nd, 2004, 02:25 AM

I've said time and time again before NAB that HDV format camcorders are at least 12-18 months away. It takes time to tool up, cast moldings, design components and develop chipsets. I don't wish to appear too jaded but I have to shake my head at those who really thought we'd see HDV ready to ship at this show. It's far too soon. They can't just whip out new product at the drop of a hat. It takes much more than several months to create new product lines. It's an incredibly complex and time consuming process and some folks seem to have unrealistic expectations about what's involved. This stuff is a year away and that should not have been a surprise. Apologies for the apparent grumpiness.

April 21st, 2004, 06:14 AM	#1
Ben Gurvich Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 329	NAB not offering much My first time of knowing about NAB. The way people built it up, i thought there would be announcements of HDV product lines from Sony, Panasonic, Samsung, Canon. Also i thougth we'd here of an XL2-HDV. Am i missing something, or has nothing really been anounced? Cheers Ben Gurvich

April 21st, 2004, 09:11 AM	#3
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	Ben: you must have been mis-reading a lot of posts. Yes, people eagerly await NAB and the product announcements they HOPE will be featured there. The team behind DVInfo.net has said time and time again that nothing is sure until it is announced. We even said we didn't think Canon would announce a succesor to the XL1S @ NAB. To take that example. No-one knows whether it exists or if it is called XL2, has HDV or when it will be announced / released. Anyone that does know cannot talk about it. What you have been reading is the HYPE and the HOPE people had of seeing an XL2 at NAB. You should never trust someone's word on when something will be announced or when it should be available. Wait for the announcement itself since: it will tell you what you need to know. I'm sorry NAB is turning out to be dissapointing. Take hype and hope with a grain of salt! __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

April 21st, 2004, 01:19 PM	#4
Dylan Couper Wrangler Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia Posts: 8,314	Backing up Rob here. Alot of people may be upset by the fact that the major DV camera comanies have not released HDV cams. Sure, I'm dissapointed too, but in no way can I hold anyone but myself at fault. We've tried to squah any rumours or hype about new cameras for months. Remember, no manufacturer promised new HDV cameras, only people on the internet. This should serve as a good example as to how much faith should be put in posts that start with "I've got a good source that says..." BTW I'm constantly dissapointed Ferrari doesn't realease a 500hp convertible for under $40,000. Can I blame Ferrari? Sure. :) Is it really their fault? Sure. :) Should they give me a free Ferrari? Hell yes. :) __________________ Need to rent camera gear in Vancouver BC? Check me out at camerarentalsvancouver.com

April 21st, 2004, 09:30 PM	#5
Joe Lloyd Major Player Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, NZ Posts: 202	40,000 per month and its yours..... ;P __________________ Catalina Productions http://www.catalina.co.nz

April 22nd, 2004, 02:25 AM	#6
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,368 Images: 513	I've said time and time again before NAB that HDV format camcorders are at least 12-18 months away. It takes time to tool up, cast moldings, design components and develop chipsets. I don't wish to appear too jaded but I have to shake my head at those who really thought we'd see HDV ready to ship at this show. It's far too soon. They can't just whip out new product at the drop of a hat. It takes much more than several months to create new product lines. It's an incredibly complex and time consuming process and some folks seem to have unrealistic expectations about what's involved. This stuff is a year away and that should not have been a surprise. Apologies for the apparent grumpiness. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

April 21st, 2004, 06:42 AM	#2
Nick Kerpchar Major Player Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 211	Ben, I was thinking the same thing. Last year's NAB appeared to be a "Ho Hum" for prosumer announcements and this year appears to be, "Ho Hum - Part 2". The reports by Adam Burtle in the Digital Video Industry News category of this forum really covers a wide area but of more interest to users of high end equipment as opposed to us below $5K users. Adam's reports are really great and he gets my kudos for taking the time to share comments and pics with us. Unfortunately, IMHO, the cam producers dropped the ball .... you can't report on something that is not there. Oh well, there's always "Area 51". Nick