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Ben Gurvich · March 12th, 2004, 06:44 AM

I posted this question a few months ago, and could not get a straight answer without people telling me that HD is neither PAL or NTSC.

The question was , In your opinion does HD look more like PAL or NTSC?

Now Again i know it is neither!! but i want peoples opinions. Think of it like me holding up a pink shirt, and asking is it more blue or more black.

Guy Bruner · March 12th, 2004, 07:38 AM

Strictly from a resolution point of view, it would look more like PAL.

Ben Gurvich · March 12th, 2004, 08:35 AM

Thankyou! finally 1 answer.

I happen to agree with this as well, also becuase of the closer fromae rate of 24p, but the hd1 shoots at 30p,

Hd1 - Pal or ntsc?

Ben Gurvich · November 4th, 2008, 11:18 AM

In my own tradition of replying to my own posts, sometimes several years later, here is the answer. Gee, i wish i could have told myself this like 4 years ago!

Ok so, my beef was that I wanted to know if HDTV looked more like PAL or NTSC. No one was really interested in this discussion, fair enough its a)quite dry and b) if your from an NTSC country you probably have no reference point.

At the time, I was suddenly seeing American broadcasts like 'Letterman' that looked the same as Australian shows from a look point of view (content fortunately stayed the same) , ie PAL Broadcast. The psychological effect was that it made me, and possibly only me, feel like theses shows may have well been produced down the street and that I had now seen behind the 'NTSC curtain' as to what it would look like if it was made locally. Where as NTSC looks like Video, obviously, it doesnt look as "electronic' (using this word as an antonym for filmlike) as PAL, due to the higher framerate and less true to reality (making it look more film like) color space.

What i have concluded over 4 years later is....

'REC709' HD color space resembles PAL much more closely than NTSC does.

George Kroonder · November 4th, 2008, 04:28 PM

Is what you're saying that HD on an SD TV-set looks like PAL on a PAL TV set and worse than an NTSC TV show converted to PAL broadcast viewed on a PAL set?

George/

March 12th, 2004, 06:44 AM	#1
Ben Gurvich Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 329	HD- what does it look like more I posted this question a few months ago, and could not get a straight answer without people telling me that HD is neither PAL or NTSC. The question was , In your opinion does HD look more like PAL or NTSC? Now Again i know it is neither!! but i want peoples opinions. Think of it like me holding up a pink shirt, and asking is it more blue or more black.

March 12th, 2004, 07:38 AM	#2
Guy Bruner Major Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ashford, AL Posts: 937	Strictly from a resolution point of view, it would look more like PAL.

March 12th, 2004, 08:35 AM	#3
Ben Gurvich Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 329	Thankyou! finally 1 answer. I happen to agree with this as well, also becuase of the closer fromae rate of 24p, but the hd1 shoots at 30p, Hd1 - Pal or ntsc?

November 4th, 2008, 11:18 AM	#4
Ben Gurvich Major Player Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 329	In my own tradition of replying to my own posts, sometimes several years later, here is the answer. Gee, i wish i could have told myself this like 4 years ago! Ok so, my beef was that I wanted to know if HDTV looked more like PAL or NTSC. No one was really interested in this discussion, fair enough its a)quite dry and b) if your from an NTSC country you probably have no reference point. At the time, I was suddenly seeing American broadcasts like 'Letterman' that looked the same as Australian shows from a look point of view (content fortunately stayed the same) , ie PAL Broadcast. The psychological effect was that it made me, and possibly only me, feel like theses shows may have well been produced down the street and that I had now seen behind the 'NTSC curtain' as to what it would look like if it was made locally. Where as NTSC looks like Video, obviously, it doesnt look as "electronic' (using this word as an antonym for filmlike) as PAL, due to the higher framerate and less true to reality (making it look more film like) color space. What i have concluded over 4 years later is.... 'REC709' HD color space resembles PAL much more closely than NTSC does.

November 4th, 2008, 04:28 PM	#5
George Kroonder Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Utrecht, NL \| Europe 3rd Rock from the Sun Posts: 612	Is what you're saying that HD on an SD TV-set looks like PAL on a PAL TV set and worse than an NTSC TV show converted to PAL broadcast viewed on a PAL set? George/