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Ben Hogan · April 14th, 2009, 10:48 AM

Now with everything moving to tapeless acquistion, what's the new terminology to call recording? I've found myself several times now trying to use something other than "videotaping" because I'm not using tape at all, but still find that slip of the tongue when describing it. I know it doesn't really matter and it's a general term everyone understands but I think there is need for a new simple word just as "videotape" to describe tapeless recording. You know "videotape" is great because it can be used as a noun and verb. I guess just plain video record works. Just sounds dull; I want one word. Just wondering if they'll be a new term to replace videotape(ing)? I'm probably being too anal about terminology or just wanting a cool new word to use. Has anyone thought of something clever yet?

Paul Kellett · April 14th, 2009, 11:22 AM

I just call it shooting, i went on a shoot, that was a good shot, i shot the bride and groom !! etc.

Paul.

Buba Kastorski · April 14th, 2009, 11:52 AM

it's been "shooting" for quite a while, to me it's still is :)

Andy Tejral · April 14th, 2009, 01:19 PM

Except you don't want to use that term if the Secret Service is around (also, its a directional microphone not a shotgun).

It irks me to death when people say 'film'.

I go with 'record'.

Ian Planchon · April 14th, 2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

It irks me to death when people say 'film'.

it used to bother me too, but then someone on a forum (this one, or B-roll, cant remember) pointed out the definition of the word "film": to direct, make, or otherwise engage in the production of motion pictures....ever since that, I havent been too bothered when people say that.

Marc Myers · April 14th, 2009, 02:35 PM

I have been using acquire for the process and media or images as a general term for stuff I acquire. I shoot a shotgun, not a camera.

Craig Seeman · April 14th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy Tejral

Except you don't want to use that term if the Secret Service is around (also, its a directional microphone not a shotgun).

It irks me to death when people say 'film'.

I go with 'record'.

Given some of the people I video, if I used the term shot I'd be pinned to the ground in milliseconds. Imagine walking into a room with a tripod bag (picture the shape now) and say "I'm here to shoot ...."

Nope, I'm not using that term in my crowd.

Bruno Demeocq · April 14th, 2009, 02:56 PM

I shot the sheriff.... In French, we are using the word " je tourne " or " ça tourne " (camera operator answser to the director asking " moteur " and the next word is " Action ".
" ça tourne " of course is link to the film bobine which is turning as the videotape and not the solid memory but " la terre ne s'est pas arrêtée de tourner pour autant ".
Et voilà .... Waiting for the german response...

Kevin Wayne Jones · April 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM

I was "recording" on tape before, and now I'm "recording" on flash media.

It's all "recording" to me.

kj

Don Bloom · April 14th, 2009, 05:20 PM

Recording is a good all around term...I love "filming" when going to tape. Hmmmm. Shoot the bride and groom...Gotta be real careful with that. I shoot rifles and handguns, Although there have been a number of clients over the years that I would have liked to "shoot".
Ahh the terminology ;-)

John Hedgecoe · April 14th, 2009, 06:03 PM

I say Video Shoot, usually shortened to just Video.

Erik Phairas · April 14th, 2009, 06:39 PM

I use it all including "film". Knowing it irks someone makes me want to use it more often.

Mitchell Lewis · April 14th, 2009, 06:48 PM

I still say "shoot", but sometimes "filming" because it makes me feel more important. hehehe

Here's some interesting definitions of words I'd been using incorrectly for many years. I got this from Doug Jensen's EX3 training DVD.

Digitize = when you transfer video from analog tape (VHS, Beta) to a computer
Ingest = when you transfer digital video from tape (DV, DVCAM, HDV, etc...) to a computer
Capture = when you transfer digital video from media (P2, SxS, XDCAM, hard drive, etc...) to a computer

Maybe I'm a geek, but I found that interesting.

David Issko · April 14th, 2009, 06:50 PM

"Recording" is what I say when I am told to record by the director or if I am in charge, "I am recording". I do, however say "tape's holding" or "I'm holding tape" when the director calls "cut". Can't seem to get anything else to flow off the tongue.

Oh well David, keep practicing "my expensive sxs card has now stopped capturing the clip". I just got it! How about "clip's holding".

Buck Forester · April 15th, 2009, 12:06 AM

I usually say film, sometimes shoot, depending on the context. I like to say 'flick' a lot, it's fun. Let's make a flick out of it, or shoot a flick. WeeEEee! Chicks dig it too. I also record music, so saying 'record' has more audio connotations to me than video. I also tried the "get it on video" route for a bit but it doesn't have much of a ring. If everyone will be like me, we'll all be on the same page. Let the confusion cease.

April 14th, 2009, 10:48 AM	#1
Ben Hogan Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Grapevine Texas Posts: 27	What's the new lingo? Now with everything moving to tapeless acquistion, what's the new terminology to call recording? I've found myself several times now trying to use something other than "videotaping" because I'm not using tape at all, but still find that slip of the tongue when describing it. I know it doesn't really matter and it's a general term everyone understands but I think there is need for a new simple word just as "videotape" to describe tapeless recording. You know "videotape" is great because it can be used as a noun and verb. I guess just plain video record works. Just sounds dull; I want one word. Just wondering if they'll be a new term to replace videotape(ing)? I'm probably being too anal about terminology or just wanting a cool new word to use. Has anyone thought of something clever yet?

April 14th, 2009, 11:22 AM	#2
Paul Kellett Trustee Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Bristol UK Posts: 1,273	I just call it shooting, i went on a shoot, that was a good shot, i shot the bride and groom !! etc. Paul. __________________ Round 2 GH5,FZ2000

April 14th, 2009, 11:52 AM	#3
Buba Kastorski Trustee Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,414	it's been "shooting" for quite a while, to me it's still is :) __________________ I love this place!

April 14th, 2009, 01:19 PM	#4
Andy Tejral Major Player Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 523	Except you don't want to use that term if the Secret Service is around (also, its a directional microphone not a shotgun). It irks me to death when people say 'film'. I go with 'record'. __________________ Andy Tejral Railroad Videographer

April 14th, 2009, 02:56 PM	#8
Bruno Demeocq Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dakar, Sénégal, West Africa Posts: 30	French version I shot the sheriff.... In French, we are using the word " je tourne " or " ça tourne " (camera operator answser to the director asking " moteur " and the next word is " Action ". " ça tourne " of course is link to the film bobine which is turning as the videotape and not the solid memory but " la terre ne s'est pas arrêtée de tourner pour autant ". Et voilà .... Waiting for the german response... __________________ Dakar - Sénégal - EX1- Nikon D7000 - HVRA1 - H4 - FCP 6.0.6 / http://brunodemeocq.viewbook.com/ bdeme@mac.com

April 14th, 2009, 02:35 PM	#6
Marc Myers Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Long Island, NY and Northeast PA Posts: 132	I have been using acquire for the process and media or images as a general term for stuff I acquire. I shoot a shotgun, not a camera.

April 14th, 2009, 03:37 PM	#9
Kevin Wayne Jones Regular Crew Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tuscaloosa, Alabama Posts: 69	I was "recording" on tape before, and now I'm "recording" on flash media. It's all "recording" to me. kj

April 14th, 2009, 05:20 PM	#10
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	Recording is a good all around term...I love "filming" when going to tape. Hmmmm. Shoot the bride and groom...Gotta be real careful with that. I shoot rifles and handguns, Although there have been a number of clients over the years that I would have liked to "shoot". Ahh the terminology ;-) __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

April 14th, 2009, 06:03 PM	#11
John Hedgecoe Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 146	I say Video Shoot, usually shortened to just Video.

April 14th, 2009, 06:39 PM	#12
Erik Phairas Major Player Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 628	I use it all including "film". Knowing it irks someone makes me want to use it more often. __________________ EX3, Q6600 Quad core PC - Vista 64, Vegas 8.1 64bit, SR11 b-cam

April 14th, 2009, 06:48 PM	#13
Mitchell Lewis Trustee Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kennewick, WA Posts: 1,124	I still say "shoot", but sometimes "filming" because it makes me feel more important. hehehe Here's some interesting definitions of words I'd been using incorrectly for many years. I got this from Doug Jensen's EX3 training DVD. Digitize = when you transfer video from analog tape (VHS, Beta) to a computer Ingest = when you transfer digital video from tape (DV, DVCAM, HDV, etc...) to a computer Capture = when you transfer digital video from media (P2, SxS, XDCAM, hard drive, etc...) to a computer Maybe I'm a geek, but I found that interesting. __________________ Sony EX3, Canon 5D MkII, Chrosziel Matte Box, Sachtler tripod, Steadicam Flyer, Mac Pro, Apple/Adobe software - 20 years as a local videographer/editor

April 14th, 2009, 06:50 PM	#14
David Issko Major Player Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 393	"Recording" is what I say when I am told to record by the director or if I am in charge, "I am recording". I do, however say "tape's holding" or "I'm holding tape" when the director calls "cut". Can't seem to get anything else to flow off the tongue. Oh well David, keep practicing "my expensive sxs card has now stopped capturing the clip". I just got it! How about "clip's holding". __________________ David Issko Edit 1 Video Productions

April 15th, 2009, 12:06 AM	#15
Buck Forester Major Player Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 230	I usually say film, sometimes shoot, depending on the context. I like to say 'flick' a lot, it's fun. Let's make a flick out of it, or shoot a flick. WeeEEee! Chicks dig it too. I also record music, so saying 'record' has more audio connotations to me than video. I also tried the "get it on video" route for a bit but it doesn't have much of a ring. If everyone will be like me, we'll all be on the same page. Let the confusion cease.