Panasonic pv-dv953 vs. Canon Xi

Alex Zabrovsky · October 21st, 2003, 04:34 AM

OK, got you. :-)
BTW, MX300 was known as a fine cam and IN fact I was considering such (or MX350) just prior to maiking my mind for GS100. Perhaps if I cuold be able to located MX300 or MX350 (PAL versions fo either) for reasonable pricing prior to making final decision for GS100 I would go with MX300/350.

Moreover, my best bet would be even MX8 if the one could still be located for reasoanble money and covered by Pana warranty. In fact I was able to figure such in Russia by internet and it was available in Moscow, but in excess of 1300 US$. For this money range I still think GS100 was and still prsent unbeatable choice.

Alex

Patricia Kim · October 23rd, 2003, 08:54 PM

This Xi is listed at under $1200 at Adorama.com and B&H says contact them for their special price (they can't list it on the web site because they're an authorized dealer for Canon, I think). Interesting how fast the msrp has been undercut to the under $1500 range. I hope it bodes well for the next round of camcorders - maybe the ones with the cup holders discussed in another thread.

Robert Silvers · December 26th, 2003, 01:20 AM

I always wondered why there were no 3-CCD digital cameras.

When I bought a Nikon D1, I was impressed, but the color was not steller. When I sold it and got a Canon 10D, I was shocked! How could a single chip be this amazing? Canon completely crushed everyone with their CMOS sensor (people thought CMOS would never have good quality).

Anyway, I saw some Xi stills on the web and the color had the same look as my 10D SLR -- the only difference was the somewhat lower resolution. The stills were vastly better than the 953 for two reasons:

1. The 953 has just 0.8 MP resolution and they upsample it 4 to 1. I had to shrink the 953 images down to 1000x750 in order for the artifacts to go away.

2. The 953 had a lack of depth and clarity and the images were very oil painting like.

Compare them yourself:

http://www.dvspot.com/reviews/canon/optura_xi-review/index.shtml

http://www.dvspot.com/reviews/panasonic/pv_dv953-review/index.shtml

Now I have not used these cameras, but I assume that whatever made the Xi have much better still quality will result in it also having better video quality.

Robert Silvers · December 26th, 2003, 01:49 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Patricia Kim : This Xi is listed at under $1200 at Adorama.com and B&H says contact them for their special price (they can't list it on the web site because they're an authorized dealer for Canon, I think).-->>>

You don't need to contact them. You just need to click on some link. They sell it for $1130 now with free shipping.

October 21st, 2003, 04:34 AM	#16
Alex Zabrovsky Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 175	OK, got you. :-) BTW, MX300 was known as a fine cam and IN fact I was considering such (or MX350) just prior to maiking my mind for GS100. Perhaps if I cuold be able to located MX300 or MX350 (PAL versions fo either) for reasonable pricing prior to making final decision for GS100 I would go with MX300/350. Moreover, my best bet would be even MX8 if the one could still be located for reasoanble money and covered by Pana warranty. In fact I was able to figure such in Russia by internet and it was available in Moscow, but in excess of 1300 US$. For this money range I still think GS100 was and still prsent unbeatable choice. Alex

October 23rd, 2003, 08:54 PM	#17
Patricia Kim Major Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Honolulu, Hawaii Posts: 453	This Xi is listed at under $1200 at Adorama.com and B&H says contact them for their special price (they can't list it on the web site because they're an authorized dealer for Canon, I think). Interesting how fast the msrp has been undercut to the under $1500 range. I hope it bodes well for the next round of camcorders - maybe the ones with the cup holders discussed in another thread.

December 26th, 2003, 01:20 AM	#18
Robert Silvers Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 64	I always wondered why there were no 3-CCD digital cameras. When I bought a Nikon D1, I was impressed, but the color was not steller. When I sold it and got a Canon 10D, I was shocked! How could a single chip be this amazing? Canon completely crushed everyone with their CMOS sensor (people thought CMOS would never have good quality). Anyway, I saw some Xi stills on the web and the color had the same look as my 10D SLR -- the only difference was the somewhat lower resolution. The stills were vastly better than the 953 for two reasons: 1. The 953 has just 0.8 MP resolution and they upsample it 4 to 1. I had to shrink the 953 images down to 1000x750 in order for the artifacts to go away. 2. The 953 had a lack of depth and clarity and the images were very oil painting like. Compare them yourself: http://www.dvspot.com/reviews/canon/optura_xi-review/index.shtml http://www.dvspot.com/reviews/panasonic/pv_dv953-review/index.shtml Now I have not used these cameras, but I assume that whatever made the Xi have much better still quality will result in it also having better video quality.

December 26th, 2003, 01:49 AM	#19
Robert Silvers Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 64	<<<-- Originally posted by Patricia Kim : This Xi is listed at under $1200 at Adorama.com and B&H says contact them for their special price (they can't list it on the web site because they're an authorized dealer for Canon, I think).-->>> You don't need to contact them. You just need to click on some link. They sell it for $1130 now with free shipping.