Copying 16mm movies off screen with HV30- how to? at DVinfo.net

Jonathan Levin · March 6th, 2009, 11:33 AM

Hello,

One of the first things I wanted to do when I got my Canon HV30 was to load up my ancient 16mm movie projector, set up a screen, and video (digitize) tape my old art school projects.

I think this might be called really poor mans telecine.

Please, before you say that it pretty cheap to have stuff digitaly transfered which I am aware, I just don't have the dough for all the stuff I want to "transfer".

I know there is a way to do this, and I am looking for any kind of guidance that could make these look acceptable. Things like what shutter speed on camera, frame rate, etc. I am liking the feel of Canon's HDV30p. All the projected film would be at 24fps, and all of my films are MOS.

Has anyone done this that can advise me? Sure would be nice to see what I looked like when my hair was black...

Thanks.

Jonathan

Bill Ward · March 6th, 2009, 12:20 PM

Hmmm...in the old days back in the newsroom, we'd take an 8.5 x 11 piece of printer paper, and tape it to the wall in landscape orientation. Then, get the movie projector or slide projector so close to the wall that the image stayed inside the paper's boundaries.

This seemed to give it the best brightness and sharpness. Then you just have to orient the camera as dead on to the wall as possible, and shoot right over the top of the projector.

No the most elegant solution, but it works in a pinch.

Jonathan Levin · March 6th, 2009, 12:24 PM

Thanks Bill.

I'm wondering if there is an optimal setting(s) for a video cam set-up that I should be aware of to avoid flickering. Just want to do the best job with what little I have.

I'm wondering if the camera placement should be offset a litlle from dead on to avoid the projector bulbs "hot spot". Or maybe that's not the case.

Anyone else?

Thanks again.

Jonathan

Richard Alvarez · March 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM

Search "poor man's telecine" - long thread on the subject, lots of tips.

Jonathan Levin · March 6th, 2009, 01:27 PM

Terrific. Thanks Richard. I'm pouring through right now. Thanks for the helpful hint.

Jonathan

Jonathan Levin · March 6th, 2009, 01:46 PM

After reading much of the info I found, I'm thinking that maybe I should wait and save some money and have it professionally transfered. I found a couple of places that charge about .21 cents US per foot transfer in HD. And they are sort of in my backyard.

Jonathan

March 6th, 2009, 11:33 AM	#1
Jonathan Levin Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 692	Copying 16mm movies off screen with HV30- how to? Hello, One of the first things I wanted to do when I got my Canon HV30 was to load up my ancient 16mm movie projector, set up a screen, and video (digitize) tape my old art school projects. I think this might be called really poor mans telecine. Please, before you say that it pretty cheap to have stuff digitaly transfered which I am aware, I just don't have the dough for all the stuff I want to "transfer". I know there is a way to do this, and I am looking for any kind of guidance that could make these look acceptable. Things like what shutter speed on camera, frame rate, etc. I am liking the feel of Canon's HDV30p. All the projected film would be at 24fps, and all of my films are MOS. Has anyone done this that can advise me? Sure would be nice to see what I looked like when my hair was black... Thanks. Jonathan

March 6th, 2009, 12:20 PM	#2
Bill Ward Major Player Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 580	Hmmm...in the old days back in the newsroom, we'd take an 8.5 x 11 piece of printer paper, and tape it to the wall in landscape orientation. Then, get the movie projector or slide projector so close to the wall that the image stayed inside the paper's boundaries. This seemed to give it the best brightness and sharpness. Then you just have to orient the camera as dead on to the wall as possible, and shoot right over the top of the projector. No the most elegant solution, but it works in a pinch.

March 6th, 2009, 12:24 PM	#3
Jonathan Levin Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 692	Thanks Bill. I'm wondering if there is an optimal setting(s) for a video cam set-up that I should be aware of to avoid flickering. Just want to do the best job with what little I have. I'm wondering if the camera placement should be offset a litlle from dead on to avoid the projector bulbs "hot spot". Or maybe that's not the case. Anyone else? Thanks again. Jonathan

March 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM	#4
Richard Alvarez Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: San Mateo, CA Posts: 3,840	Search "poor man's telecine" - long thread on the subject, lots of tips.

March 6th, 2009, 01:27 PM	#5
Jonathan Levin Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 692	Terrific. Thanks Richard. I'm pouring through right now. Thanks for the helpful hint. Jonathan

March 6th, 2009, 01:46 PM	#6
Jonathan Levin Major Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 692	After reading much of the info I found, I'm thinking that maybe I should wait and save some money and have it professionally transfered. I found a couple of places that charge about .21 cents US per foot transfer in HD. And they are sort of in my backyard. Jonathan