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Guy Godwin · February 4th, 2009, 08:16 PM

Does anyone know the details of CopyRight issues with YouTube?
I have some football highlights set to music and some times the site does not accept it and some times it does. (Same songs)

They are also directing the viewer to buy the song that I am using on iTunes.

Anyway? I have no idea why some of my videos are blocked and some are not. If you have any idea I am curious to hear your experiences.

Jay Bratcher · February 4th, 2009, 09:08 PM

I don't know all the details, but this article seems to sum it up:

YouTube Copyright System Gone Mad, EFF Prepares to Sue - ReadWriteWeb

In a nutshell, it seems that the automated tools are not quite perfect...

Chris Hurd · February 4th, 2009, 09:25 PM

Agreed; the cause for the variance is most likely due to discrepancies within YouTube's automated copyright protection technology. The process by which YouTube detects copyright infringement seems to be far from perfect.

Rick L. Allen · February 5th, 2009, 08:31 AM

Guy, I'm assuming you have the band's permission to use their music on your highlights reel? If not you are misusing the band's intellectual property and are violating their copyright.

Guy Godwin · February 5th, 2009, 08:57 AM

Rick,
Actually No. When I started this little project it was for a football banquet and not Youtube.
Anyway, at the rquest of some parents I put it up in the fall. Once Youtube went HD, I wanted to upload it again for the HD version. But now it wont play the music. It is not a big deal and I should not have done it in the first place. However, why did it work then and not now?

Rick L. Allen · February 5th, 2009, 04:39 PM

Perhaps the band/copyright holders flagged the video?

Steve House · February 6th, 2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Godwin

Rick,
Actually No. When I started this little project it was for a football banquet and not Youtube.
Anyway, at the rquest of some parents I put it up in the fall. Once Youtube went HD, I wanted to upload it again for the HD version. But now it wont play the music. It is not a big deal and I should not have done it in the first place. However, why did it work then and not now?

Probably for the same reason you could speed through a particular stretch of highway yesterday without getting caught but if you try it today they might be running radar and you might get a ticket. It's the luck of the draw ...

FYI, it wasn't legal when it was for only "for a football banquet" either. There are so many sources of low cost or free, good sounding, royalty-free music to use that there's simply no excuse for anyone to fudge it, even when it's very likely you'll get away with it because only a few people will see it. Respecting the intellectual property rights of your brother and sister media professionals generates good karma to get your's respected in return. If you simply refuse to use unlicensed copyright materials in your productions no matter what, you'll never have to worry about issues such as YouTube's policies.

David Stoneburner · February 6th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Just a suggestion. I shoot video of my daughter's dance competition team when we are allowed at certain competitions. Most of the time they have a company there, but some allow a single camera from each school. Anyway, I wanted to be able to put the dance pieces on a site that could be viewed by parents and family, but the dance director is very protective of her choreography. I ended up putting them into a secured folder on my Webshots account. They have been offering video for a couple of years. For people to see it, they must have a certain link. I then sent that link to the parents who in turn were allow to share it with family and friends. I also put a disclaimer that it was just for team use and if anybody violated sharing the link and making it public, then the videos would be taken down. They aren't offering HD yet, but I thought that it was a good compromise.

Shaun Roemich · February 6th, 2009, 10:10 AM

To use Steve's analogy, what David is doing is putting a radar detector in his car. No less illegal, just less likely to get caught.

Guy Godwin · February 9th, 2009, 09:01 AM

I have actually moved mine to Facebook. That way I can control who views it and the site has a surprisingly good HD video player.

My original question was more about wondering the details of the copyright detection software. I have seen the site actually detect the 3rd party copyright and still allow it. Sometimes it detects it and disables the sound other times it never detects it.

Does the site have a library of songs that can be used.

Steve House · February 9th, 2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guy Godwin

I have actually moved mine to Facebook. That way I can control who views it and the site has a surprisingly good HD video player.

My original question was more about wondering the details of the copyright detection software. I have seen the site actually detect the 3rd party copyright and still allow it. Sometimes it detects it and disables the sound other times it never detects it.

Does the site have a library of songs that can be used.

I think you should contact YouTube and ask. Since it's always possible that a posting contains copyright music that has in fact been properly licensed and thus is legal, there has to be a mechanism of some sort available to allow it to remain.

The best workaround is simply to refuse under any circumstances to include copyright music in your productions without proper clearance.

February 4th, 2009, 08:16 PM	#1
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	YouTube Copyrights Does anyone know the details of CopyRight issues with YouTube? I have some football highlights set to music and some times the site does not accept it and some times it does. (Same songs) They are also directing the viewer to buy the song that I am using on iTunes. Anyway? I have no idea why some of my videos are blocked and some are not. If you have any idea I am curious to hear your experiences.

February 4th, 2009, 09:25 PM	#3
Chris Hurd Obstreperous Rex Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 27,369 Images: 513	Agreed; the cause for the variance is most likely due to discrepancies within YouTube's automated copyright protection technology. The process by which YouTube detects copyright infringement seems to be far from perfect. __________________ CH Search DV Info Net \| 20 years of DVi \| ...Tuesday is Soylent Green Day!

February 5th, 2009, 08:31 AM	#4
Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 536	Guy, I'm assuming you have the band's permission to use their music on your highlights reel? If not you are misusing the band's intellectual property and are violating their copyright. __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

February 5th, 2009, 04:39 PM	#6
Rick L. Allen Major Player Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Fayetteville, NC Posts: 536	Perhaps the band/copyright holders flagged the video? __________________ "The good thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not." Neil deGrasse Tyson https://www.nautilusproductions.com/

February 6th, 2009, 10:10 AM	#9
Shaun Roemich Inner Circle Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia (formerly Winnipeg, Manitoba) Canada Posts: 4,088	To use Steve's analogy, what David is doing is putting a radar detector in his car. No less illegal, just less likely to get caught. __________________ Shaun C. Roemich Road Dog Media - Vancouver, BC - Videographer - Webcaster www.roaddogmedia.ca Blog: http://roaddogmedia.wordpress.com/

February 4th, 2009, 09:08 PM	#2
Jay Bratcher Regular Crew Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 110	I don't know all the details, but this article seems to sum it up: YouTube Copyright System Gone Mad, EFF Prepares to Sue - ReadWriteWeb In a nutshell, it seems that the automated tools are not quite perfect...

February 5th, 2009, 08:57 AM	#5
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	Rick, Actually No. When I started this little project it was for a football banquet and not Youtube. Anyway, at the rquest of some parents I put it up in the fall. Once Youtube went HD, I wanted to upload it again for the HD version. But now it wont play the music. It is not a big deal and I should not have done it in the first place. However, why did it work then and not now?

February 6th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#8
David Stoneburner Major Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 494	Just a suggestion. I shoot video of my daughter's dance competition team when we are allowed at certain competitions. Most of the time they have a company there, but some allow a single camera from each school. Anyway, I wanted to be able to put the dance pieces on a site that could be viewed by parents and family, but the dance director is very protective of her choreography. I ended up putting them into a secured folder on my Webshots account. They have been offering video for a couple of years. For people to see it, they must have a certain link. I then sent that link to the parents who in turn were allow to share it with family and friends. I also put a disclaimer that it was just for team use and if anybody violated sharing the link and making it public, then the videos would be taken down. They aren't offering HD yet, but I thought that it was a good compromise.

February 9th, 2009, 09:01 AM	#10
Guy Godwin Major Player Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Florence, KY Posts: 345	I have actually moved mine to Facebook. That way I can control who views it and the site has a surprisingly good HD video player. My original question was more about wondering the details of the copyright detection software. I have seen the site actually detect the 3rd party copyright and still allow it. Sometimes it detects it and disables the sound other times it never detects it. Does the site have a library of songs that can be used.