dv switchers ** help !!! at DVinfo.net

Felipe Gallego · August 27th, 2008, 02:01 PM

thanks Chris for the approval !

hello, I am looking for a switch box to plug 2 cameras into, using 6 pin firewire cables, then from the switch box to the computer.

I am starting a live internet streaming show and need to switch between cameras on the fly, without the computer "seeing" that there was a switch so it doesnt drop the connection.

I have found a few 1394 switchers, but they are in the 1000 to 6000 dollar range, that seems ridiculous.

I have found that the box needs to be "syncronous" so that it can flip between the inputs and not drop the connection.

need some help !

Ben Lynn · August 27th, 2008, 07:14 PM

I think you'd be better to buy a cheap analog mixer and a analog to dv converter. Cut the show on the mixer and run it to the converter and into the computer. It would allow you to cut the show without the connection problems. The total cost would be about $500 for a used mixer and new converter.

If your show was for tv that would be a bad setup. For the internet though I think it would be a cheap and effective way to go.

John Miller · August 27th, 2008, 07:47 PM

If you are using Windows, we have a DV switcher DirectShow plug-in that can switch up to 4 cameras live. It is still in development but fully functional.

Please PM me for more info.

John.

Felipe Gallego · August 28th, 2008, 09:48 AM

Benn, analog ? so you mean from the camera using the RCA's, to the box, and then from the box to the computer, via what? USB ? DV ? 6pin 8pin ? sounds like thats what I may need.

John, thanks, but I am a proud Apple Mac user.

Felipe Gallego · August 28th, 2008, 09:54 AM

so something like this

PYRO A/V Link Basic

and wat kind of mixer ??

THANKS !!!!! THIS SITE KICKS BUTT.

Felipe Gallego · August 28th, 2008, 10:24 AM

what about this, would this allow me to switch DV inputs on the fly without dropping the connection ??

OWC Express34 FireWire 400+USB2 Add On Card... (EXPC342F1U) at OWC

Ben Lynn · August 28th, 2008, 10:55 AM

Yes, analog. Yes, the pyro av converter would work fine. No, the firewire card by itself won't switch the sources. You would need a card like that plus software to handle a switch.

As for a mixer, look up Panasonic video mixers on ebay. Check out some of the newer ones like Edirol from the sponsor sites here at dvinfo.

Felipe Gallego · August 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM

aye sir im on it ! thank you

Felipe Gallego · August 30th, 2008, 05:14 PM

wow, still all this stuff is way out of the budget.

theres gotta be a simpler way.

check the link i posted at my mac forums

dv switchers help !!! - Mac Forums

Ben Lynn · August 30th, 2008, 05:54 PM

Sorry, we can only offer advice, not money : )

Maybe think about expanding your budget. Or capture to tape and cut the show in post. Good luck.

Felipe Gallego · August 30th, 2008, 10:49 PM

au contraire mon frere, you can offer money, and I can gladly accept, paypal is loneshark@gmail.com !! LOL

i need to start a fundraiser or rob a bank !

John Miller · September 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM

Felipe,

If you are still struggling to find a solution, you can still use our switcher software. With Apple's Boot Camp, you can install Windows on your Mac and use our switcher to capture to raw DV files (to make it easy to use them with your Mac).

Yesterday, I uploaded a package to our website:

http://www.enosoft.net/dl.php?filena...her31Aug08.zip

Features are described on the VideoHelp forum:

4-channel DV switcher software available for download - VideoHelp.com

John.

Felipe Gallego · September 1st, 2008, 10:50 PM

loading windows on a mac is stupid, please lets not get into this debate. I do not encourage anyone to use windows on a mac. yes it works. but it is not a viable solution. thanks for your input. :)

check my youtube page for some of my work. I have alwasy been an artist of sorts, and videography is just another media i have found to express my ideas.

http://www.youtube.com/loneshark2000

this was my very first final cut pro en devour. took me 13 hours from start to finish. learned the entire program in that time as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3walgM9Ff6I

those are my boys, Amber Rose

then i did something quick and dirty for my car club

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPE_bDY39OQ

then i got a client while i was out shooting Amber Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nIB5DYXgac

then another quick fina lcut pro mix for Amber Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20TQ1X_iA4

then i setup the fatal the maskman page and did some post

http://www.youtube.com/fatalthemaskman

then i setup the Amber Rose youtube page and streamed their show live and also mixed in post, compare the sound quality of the last song vice the first six, tell me what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/amberroserocks

Jim Andrada · September 2nd, 2008, 01:27 AM

There's nothing at all stupid about it. It works fine and it opens up the ability to use a lot of excellent applications on your chosen hardware platform.

Which is a really great thing.

And if someone were kind enough to offer a solution to a problem I had, I think I'd begin my reply with a "Thank you." even if for some reason it wasn't the solution I was looking for.

Felipe Gallego · September 2nd, 2008, 07:40 AM

"thank you."

I did thank Mr. Miller above and previously stated that I am a proud mac user, and he still pitched me a windows based program.

real mac users, dont need windows. ;)

August 27th, 2008, 02:01 PM	#1
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	dv switchers help !!!** thanks Chris for the approval ! hello, I am looking for a switch box to plug 2 cameras into, using 6 pin firewire cables, then from the switch box to the computer. I am starting a live internet streaming show and need to switch between cameras on the fly, without the computer "seeing" that there was a switch so it doesnt drop the connection. I have found a few 1394 switchers, but they are in the 1000 to 6000 dollar range, that seems ridiculous. I have found that the box needs to be "syncronous" so that it can flip between the inputs and not drop the connection. need some help !

August 27th, 2008, 07:14 PM	#2
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	I think you'd be better to buy a cheap analog mixer and a analog to dv converter. Cut the show on the mixer and run it to the converter and into the computer. It would allow you to cut the show without the connection problems. The total cost would be about $500 for a used mixer and new converter. If your show was for tv that would be a bad setup. For the internet though I think it would be a cheap and effective way to go.

August 27th, 2008, 07:47 PM	#3
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	If you are using Windows, we have a DV switcher DirectShow plug-in that can switch up to 4 cameras live. It is still in development but fully functional. Please PM me for more info. John.

August 28th, 2008, 09:48 AM	#4
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	Benn, analog ? so you mean from the camera using the RCA's, to the box, and then from the box to the computer, via what? USB ? DV ? 6pin 8pin ? sounds like thats what I may need. John, thanks, but I am a proud Apple Mac user.

August 28th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#5
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	so something like this PYRO A/V Link Basic and wat kind of mixer ?? THANKS !!!!! THIS SITE KICKS BUTT.

August 28th, 2008, 10:24 AM	#6
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	what about this, would this allow me to switch DV inputs on the fly without dropping the connection ?? OWC Express34 FireWire 400+USB2 Add On Card... (EXPC342F1U) at OWC

August 28th, 2008, 10:55 AM	#7
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	Yes, analog. Yes, the pyro av converter would work fine. No, the firewire card by itself won't switch the sources. You would need a card like that plus software to handle a switch. As for a mixer, look up Panasonic video mixers on ebay. Check out some of the newer ones like Edirol from the sponsor sites here at dvinfo.

August 28th, 2008, 11:06 AM	#8
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	aye sir im on it ! thank you

August 30th, 2008, 05:14 PM	#9
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	wow, still all this stuff is way out of the budget. theres gotta be a simpler way. check the link i posted at my mac forums dv switchers help !!! - Mac Forums

August 30th, 2008, 05:54 PM	#10
Ben Lynn Major Player Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bloomington, IL Posts: 636	Sorry, we can only offer advice, not money : ) Maybe think about expanding your budget. Or capture to tape and cut the show in post. Good luck.

August 30th, 2008, 10:49 PM	#11
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	au contraire mon frere, you can offer money, and I can gladly accept, paypal is loneshark@gmail.com !! LOL i need to start a fundraiser or rob a bank !

September 1st, 2008, 01:35 PM	#12
John Miller Major Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hillsborough, NC, USA Posts: 968	Felipe, If you are still struggling to find a solution, you can still use our switcher software. With Apple's Boot Camp, you can install Windows on your Mac and use our switcher to capture to raw DV files (to make it easy to use them with your Mac). Yesterday, I uploaded a package to our website: http://www.enosoft.net/dl.php?filena...her31Aug08.zip Features are described on the VideoHelp forum: 4-channel DV switcher software available for download - VideoHelp.com John.

September 1st, 2008, 10:50 PM	#13
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	loading windows on a mac is stupid, please lets not get into this debate. I do not encourage anyone to use windows on a mac. yes it works. but it is not a viable solution. thanks for your input. :) check my youtube page for some of my work. I have alwasy been an artist of sorts, and videography is just another media i have found to express my ideas. http://www.youtube.com/loneshark2000 this was my very first final cut pro en devour. took me 13 hours from start to finish. learned the entire program in that time as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3walgM9Ff6I those are my boys, Amber Rose then i did something quick and dirty for my car club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPE_bDY39OQ then i got a client while i was out shooting Amber Rose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nIB5DYXgac then another quick fina lcut pro mix for Amber Rose http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20TQ1X_iA4 then i setup the fatal the maskman page and did some post http://www.youtube.com/fatalthemaskman then i setup the Amber Rose youtube page and streamed their show live and also mixed in post, compare the sound quality of the last song vice the first six, tell me what you think. http://www.youtube.com/amberroserocks

September 2nd, 2008, 01:27 AM	#14
Jim Andrada Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tucson AZ Posts: 2,211	There's nothing at all stupid about it. It works fine and it opens up the ability to use a lot of excellent applications on your chosen hardware platform. Which is a really great thing. And if someone were kind enough to offer a solution to a problem I had, I think I'd begin my reply with a "Thank you." even if for some reason it wasn't the solution I was looking for.

September 2nd, 2008, 07:40 AM	#15
Felipe Gallego Regular Crew Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: ponte vedra, florida Posts: 30	"thank you." I did thank Mr. Miller above and previously stated that I am a proud mac user, and he still pitched me a windows based program. real mac users, dont need windows. ;)