Powerade commercial at DVinfo.net

Lorne Mathre · June 28th, 2008, 11:48 PM

I'm attempting to do something like this with a one camera shoot on sticks using split screen? The host in the foreground with players to his left making crazy shots into a basket that is on the host's right. I was thinking I could just split the screen to the right of the host. The players would shoot high and out of frame and the split would show the ball going through the basket. Any and all advice would be very much appreciated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTo8hopFZg

Lorne Mathre · July 1st, 2008, 09:48 PM

I guess I'm all alone on this one.

Lorne Mathre · July 3rd, 2008, 07:09 AM

A last feeble attempt for advice...I'll even take "Don't even try it" as advice.

Bill Mecca · July 3rd, 2008, 09:38 AM

my feeble attempt would be to have several layers with masks, doing something along the lines of what you described.

Dave Blackhurst · July 3rd, 2008, 10:00 AM

my feeble advice... GO FOR IT!!!! worst case you fail a few times, but it's obviously doable, right?

Looked to me like the original could have been carefully framed to conceal a "shooting double" sinking the impossible shots... timing would be fun, but certainly not impossible to create the illusion in a "practical" way.

Far moe likely is masking a series of layers and some digital trickery... after all this is 2008! Don't believe everything you see!

Lorne Mathre · July 3rd, 2008, 12:45 PM

Bill & Dave thanks, it seemed like it could be done. I'm glad others thought the same as well. Thanks again.

Nik Skjoth · July 4th, 2008, 03:04 AM

Well if by "camera on sticks" you mean the camera being static on a tripod, making this would be very very easy. Since the camera is not moving, you can just film the player shoot at the basket, and then have someone on a latter throw in the ball one by one afterwards. Then you edit the scene so that its timed accordingly, and simply mask out the ball he is throwing if needed, and mask in the ball that hits the basket.. Just the ball and the basket, not half the screen.

Lorne Mathre · September 20th, 2008, 03:46 AM

Well, I did go for it and here is the result. Please post any comments...good or bad...here and not on the youtube page. Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GFGPqdpEAk
Let's see if this link works.

Josh Chesarek · September 20th, 2008, 06:32 AM

After looking I am guessing the throw at least at the end was just a CG ball on the original commercial.
where is the result?

Ervin Farkas · September 23rd, 2008, 12:46 PM

Looks realistic enough to me, at least as much as the compressed uTube file shows.

Care to tell us?

Joshua Csehak · September 23rd, 2008, 02:22 PM

Great job! I'm guessing you just used a few masks?

Lorne Mathre · September 23rd, 2008, 06:08 PM

Masked out the area by the hoop, but the difficult part was that the shoot happened at the end of a very busy day for the player, so he really only had time for one attempt of each shot. In some cases where the players shot came back into the scene with the interviewer, I had to export that sequence as still images and remove the ball from each individual frame in photoshop.

Andrew Kimery · September 24th, 2008, 12:05 PM

On one viewing the only thing that jumped out to me was after the final trick shot the net is moving and then suddenly stops.

-A

John Stakes · September 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM

I can't watch youtube at work...but I will check when I get home. Also Lorne, I sent you an email!

-JS

Lorne Mathre · September 24th, 2008, 01:08 PM

Good catch Andrew, I totally missed that. I think I was so focused on the ball and the my deadline was approaching fast. If I only I had more time.

June 28th, 2008, 11:48 PM	#1
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	Powerade commercial I'm attempting to do something like this with a one camera shoot on sticks using split screen? The host in the foreground with players to his left making crazy shots into a basket that is on the host's right. I was thinking I could just split the screen to the right of the host. The players would shoot high and out of frame and the split would show the ball going through the basket. Any and all advice would be very much appreciated. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTo8hopFZg

July 3rd, 2008, 09:38 AM	#4
Bill Mecca Major Player Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 475	my feeble attempt would be to have several layers with masks, doing something along the lines of what you described. __________________ Award-winning Pine Barrens Documentary! Video, Audio, Music & More

September 20th, 2008, 03:46 AM	#8
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	Well, I did go for it and here is the result. Please post any comments...good or bad...here and not on the youtube page. Thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GFGPqdpEAk Let's see if this link works. Last edited by Lorne Mathre; September 20th, 2008 at 11:16 PM.

September 20th, 2008, 06:32 AM	#9
Josh Chesarek Major Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 978	After looking I am guessing the throw at least at the end was just a CG ball on the original commercial. where is the result? __________________ Simple Thought Productions - Life @ 30,000 Words per second

September 23rd, 2008, 12:46 PM	#10
Ervin Farkas Inner Circle Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta/USA Posts: 2,515	Looks realistic enough to me, at least as much as the compressed uTube file shows. Care to tell us? __________________ Ervin Farkas www.AtlantaLegalVideo.com

July 1st, 2008, 09:48 PM	#2
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	I guess I'm all alone on this one.

July 3rd, 2008, 07:09 AM	#3
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	A last feeble attempt for advice...I'll even take "Don't even try it" as advice.

July 3rd, 2008, 10:00 AM	#5
Dave Blackhurst Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Apple Valley CA Posts: 4,874	my feeble advice... GO FOR IT!!!! worst case you fail a few times, but it's obviously doable, right? Looked to me like the original could have been carefully framed to conceal a "shooting double" sinking the impossible shots... timing would be fun, but certainly not impossible to create the illusion in a "practical" way. Far moe likely is masking a series of layers and some digital trickery... after all this is 2008! Don't believe everything you see!

July 3rd, 2008, 12:45 PM	#6
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	Bill & Dave thanks, it seemed like it could be done. I'm glad others thought the same as well. Thanks again.

July 4th, 2008, 03:04 AM	#7
Nik Skjoth Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cph Denmark Posts: 136	Well if by "camera on sticks" you mean the camera being static on a tripod, making this would be very very easy. Since the camera is not moving, you can just film the player shoot at the basket, and then have someone on a latter throw in the ball one by one afterwards. Then you edit the scene so that its timed accordingly, and simply mask out the ball he is throwing if needed, and mask in the ball that hits the basket.. Just the ball and the basket, not half the screen.

September 23rd, 2008, 02:22 PM	#11
Joshua Csehak Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: boston Posts: 25	Great job! I'm guessing you just used a few masks?

September 23rd, 2008, 06:08 PM	#12
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	Masked out the area by the hoop, but the difficult part was that the shoot happened at the end of a very busy day for the player, so he really only had time for one attempt of each shot. In some cases where the players shot came back into the scene with the interviewer, I had to export that sequence as still images and remove the ball from each individual frame in photoshop.

September 24th, 2008, 12:05 PM	#13
Andrew Kimery Major Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 352	On one viewing the only thing that jumped out to me was after the final trick shot the net is moving and then suddenly stops. -A

September 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM	#14
John Stakes Major Player Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 558	I can't watch youtube at work...but I will check when I get home. Also Lorne, I sent you an email! -JS

September 24th, 2008, 01:08 PM	#15
Lorne Mathre Regular Crew Join Date: May 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 56	Good catch Andrew, I totally missed that. I think I was so focused on the ball and the my deadline was approaching fast. If I only I had more time.