Foggy morning framegrabs.

Alex Knappenberger · June 15th, 2003, 08:00 PM

Trey, I'm 14, and even if I had a little petty job (like washing pans at pizza oven) I still wouldn't be able to save up the money needed for a camera like yours, I'd go nuts and break down and buy something else before I got enough to buy a DSLR. Hopefully when i'm older. :D

Glen Elliott · June 16th, 2003, 08:40 AM

Regarding the rule of 3rds, it is true that it makes for a more pleasing composition however it isn't set in stone. You don't always have to shoot using this rule to get the best composition. I mean that in regards to Alex's 15_2, and 16 landscape shots. I see no reason why the horizon had to lie on a 3rd line for that particular shot. I actually thought the pic had good composition, with the large tree to the right breaking up the horizon.

When it comes to art it's really hard to hold any standing argument back and forth, after all it's mostly opinion. For example when I go to the Philadelphia Art Museum and see these huuuuge canvases with a few splashes of paint randomly smeared about (ie "abstract" art)I think it's no-talent garbage. Though they'll be a million people that'll disagree with me.

I've been an illustrator all my life (all 25 year of it, lol) and within the last 4 years or so been getting into the digital end of art including photography and videography. I should post some of my digital photography to have it critiqued. I better brace myself when I post them- Dylan can be brutal. :) Take care guys.

Trey Perrone · June 16th, 2003, 09:21 AM

Alex mucho kudos! for being 14 you have a lot of ambition! hang in there and keep doing what you are doing, it will pay off in the long run!

p.s. ill match you kat for kat
look into my eyes!
http://visualstudios.org/10dpics/img_0099.jpg

Mark Moore · June 16th, 2003, 09:57 AM

Great pic, Trey. Those pupils look like the window to some far-away galaxy of stars!

Glen Elliott · June 16th, 2003, 11:16 AM

<<<-- Originally posted by Trey Perrone : Alex mucho kudos! for being 14 you have a lot of ambition! hang in there and keep doing what you are doing, it will pay off in the long run!

] -->>>

Ditto man- when I was 14 I was spending all day on my SNES or at the arcade playing Street Fighter 2....oh those were the days. :)

If your this ambitous and have this good of an understanding of NLE already your bound to be great. You've got the talent and ambition all you need now is experience and your on your way to being sucessfull....if video is what you wanna do career'wise. Good luck- keep up the great work.

Alex Knappenberger · June 16th, 2003, 01:49 PM

Thanks, actually thats really what I am probably best at, is editing, since it really just kind of blends in with my computer experience and stuff, i've been using computers since I was 7/8, and I've built and fixed many, many, many, many.

I just can't see doing anything with computers for a future job/career, sitting behind a desk all day or doing anything like that would be torture. Today, digital video and computers go together very well, you can't really do one without the other.

I'm waiting to shoot my next stupid little 4-6 minute video. I'll post it when it's done.

Trey, nice picture, the DOF with that lens and stuff on that camera is crazy, but I got you topped on funny cat pictures, here's one, nothing special, it was my webcam on www.rickandrak.com awhile ago, i'll post another one I got earlyer of this same cat that was pretty funny.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...1/webcam10.jpg

Glen Elliott · June 16th, 2003, 03:28 PM

Ok I'm inspired- check out the other post on this forum- I just linked a bunch of pics of my own work. Go easy...I'm not a pro.

Trey Perrone · June 16th, 2003, 04:07 PM

oh yeah...we just shaved one of our cats...hehehehe...took almost 3 hours and my dad almost lost a finger....problem is i have to find her to get a pic first...she saw me this morning and ran...i was the one who held her down. just wait my friends ill get one up in the next day or so...

Alex Knappenberger · June 16th, 2003, 04:21 PM

Hahaha, Yeah, I want to shave one of our cats too, he is so hairy, I could make a whole outfit from all the hair if we shaved him.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/169091/cat.jpg

Heh, he's so retarded.

Trey Perrone · June 16th, 2003, 07:54 PM

does this kat look pissed off or what?
http://visualstudios.org/10dpics/stitches1.jpg

"in the jungle...."

Mark Moore · June 16th, 2003, 08:26 PM

That is the typical "leave me alone" expression of a cat!

June 16th, 2003, 09:21 AM	#33
Trey Perrone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 155	Alex mucho kudos! for being 14 you have a lot of ambition! hang in there and keep doing what you are doing, it will pay off in the long run! p.s. ill match you kat for kat look into my eyes! http://visualstudios.org/10dpics/img_0099.jpg __________________ Trey Perrone

June 16th, 2003, 09:57 AM	#34
Mark Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 301	Great pic, Trey. Those pupils look like the window to some far-away galaxy of stars! __________________ Mark Moore Sugar Free Productions

June 16th, 2003, 04:07 PM	#38
Trey Perrone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 155	oh yeah...we just shaved one of our cats...hehehehe...took almost 3 hours and my dad almost lost a finger....problem is i have to find her to get a pic first...she saw me this morning and ran...i was the one who held her down. just wait my friends ill get one up in the next day or so... __________________ Trey Perrone

June 16th, 2003, 07:54 PM	#40
Trey Perrone Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 155	does this kat look pissed off or what? http://visualstudios.org/10dpics/stitches1.jpg "in the jungle...." __________________ Trey Perrone

June 16th, 2003, 08:26 PM	#41
Mark Moore Major Player Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Carolina Posts: 301	That is the typical "leave me alone" expression of a cat! __________________ Mark Moore Sugar Free Productions

June 15th, 2003, 08:00 PM	#31
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Trey, I'm 14, and even if I had a little petty job (like washing pans at pizza oven) I still wouldn't be able to save up the money needed for a camera like yours, I'd go nuts and break down and buy something else before I got enough to buy a DSLR. Hopefully when i'm older. :D

June 16th, 2003, 08:40 AM	#32
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Regarding the rule of 3rds, it is true that it makes for a more pleasing composition however it isn't set in stone. You don't always have to shoot using this rule to get the best composition. I mean that in regards to Alex's 15_2, and 16 landscape shots. I see no reason why the horizon had to lie on a 3rd line for that particular shot. I actually thought the pic had good composition, with the large tree to the right breaking up the horizon. When it comes to art it's really hard to hold any standing argument back and forth, after all it's mostly opinion. For example when I go to the Philadelphia Art Museum and see these huuuuge canvases with a few splashes of paint randomly smeared about (ie "abstract" art)I think it's no-talent garbage. Though they'll be a million people that'll disagree with me. I've been an illustrator all my life (all 25 year of it, lol) and within the last 4 years or so been getting into the digital end of art including photography and videography. I should post some of my digital photography to have it critiqued. I better brace myself when I post them- Dylan can be brutal. :) Take care guys.

June 16th, 2003, 11:16 AM	#35
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	<<<-- Originally posted by Trey Perrone : Alex mucho kudos! for being 14 you have a lot of ambition! hang in there and keep doing what you are doing, it will pay off in the long run! ] -->>> Ditto man- when I was 14 I was spending all day on my SNES or at the arcade playing Street Fighter 2....oh those were the days. :) If your this ambitous and have this good of an understanding of NLE already your bound to be great. You've got the talent and ambition all you need now is experience and your on your way to being sucessfull....if video is what you wanna do career'wise. Good luck- keep up the great work.

June 16th, 2003, 01:49 PM	#36
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Thanks, actually thats really what I am probably best at, is editing, since it really just kind of blends in with my computer experience and stuff, i've been using computers since I was 7/8, and I've built and fixed many, many, many, many. I just can't see doing anything with computers for a future job/career, sitting behind a desk all day or doing anything like that would be torture. Today, digital video and computers go together very well, you can't really do one without the other. I'm waiting to shoot my next stupid little 4-6 minute video. I'll post it when it's done. Trey, nice picture, the DOF with that lens and stuff on that camera is crazy, but I got you topped on funny cat pictures, here's one, nothing special, it was my webcam on www.rickandrak.com awhile ago, i'll post another one I got earlyer of this same cat that was pretty funny. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-...1/webcam10.jpg

June 16th, 2003, 03:28 PM	#37
Glen Elliott Wrangler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 2,898	Ok I'm inspired- check out the other post on this forum- I just linked a bunch of pics of my own work. Go easy...I'm not a pro.

June 16th, 2003, 04:21 PM	#39
Alex Knappenberger High School Student Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canton, Ohio, USA Posts: 609	Hahaha, Yeah, I want to shave one of our cats too, he is so hairy, I could make a whole outfit from all the hair if we shaved him. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/169091/cat.jpg Heh, he's so retarded.