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March 19th, 2013, 04:35 AM | #1 |
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Glow worthy computer?
Hey I'm doing a movie set at Christmas time which means I'll using a glow filter a lot. My 2008 Mac tower with FC7 obviously isn't fast enough to render this in real time, even though it can handle color correction, speed changes, fades, etc. in real time.
My question is, if I want to handle 1080p Quicktime HQ 422 footage with a glow and other goodies, what kind of specs should I be looking at? PS I'm almost certainly dropping mac and final cut and switching to CS6. If ya'll have any advice thank you in advance:) |
March 20th, 2013, 02:03 PM | #2 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
skip AMD processors and AMD/ATI graphics cards if you are going with CS6.
Specs i would recommend (build it yourself if you are so inclined) SSD boot disk 16GB RAM Core i7 (4 or 6 core) RAID scratch disk (on board raid works but RAID card works better) 4 or more HDD's in RAID5 or RAID0 if you plan to back up GeForce GTX 660 1GB or more good (ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte) Mobo case with good airflow water cooling (corsair hydro H50 works great on my i7 950 at 4.2Ghz) or good air cooler (Noctua has some good air coolers) just be sure to read up on setup specs; there is a huge gain in performance if you have your system tuned correctly. My current machine, which is from 2010, is still pretty formidable, but if i was going to build a new (complete) machine, i would probably budget 4-5k, but you could get away with building one for 2-ish grand. Nice thing is PSU, CPU cooler, case, graphics and RAID card and HDD's you should be able to carry over into your next system, so that cuts $600-800 out of your next build or upgrade. I usually upgrade my machines every 12 months; maybe $200 each time, and CPU/motherboard/RAM maybe every 2 years or when technology advances dramatically. My i7 950 does a great job now, and i cant justify dropping $800 on a CPU/motherboard yet; ill wait until the Intel i7 49xx 6-core series and X99 chipset comes out. for around $2 grand, this is what i would buy right now. all sourced via newegg. CPU, cooler, RAM, PSU, RAID card, HDD's, SSD, graphics card, case; should be everything you'd need. I would go with an ARECA 1222 or higher (i have an ARC-1222 and 8-disk array) for better performance. Most parts are cheap right now; i was surprised that 16GB of good RAM was around $100, and with a better RAID card you have the option to add more HDD's as you need them. Also might want to throw in a memory card reader and disk drive. this way also gives you several other upgrade paths for the future; two spare RAM slots so you could max it out at 32GB if needed, two PCI-e slots (one for graphics card, one for RAID card), and a big open case so any additions are easy. i would go with a better RAID card if you plan on using it a lot, and more HDD's. COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0, Black Interior and Four Fans-1x 230mm front RED LED, 1x 140mm rear, 1x 230mm top, and 1x 230mm side Item #: N82E16811119160 -$20.00 Instant $179.99 $159.99 Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Item #: N82E16822148840 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$30.00 Instant $439.96 (4) $319.96 (4) ($79.99 each) EVGA SuperClocked 02G-P4-2662-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card Item #: N82E16814130826 Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy Protect Your Investment (expand for options) $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card $229.99 1 NVIDIA $150 value in-game coin coupon Item #: N82E16800995151 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$150.00 Saving $150.00 $0.00 CORSAIR HX Series HX850 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply Item #: N82E16817139011 -$30.00 Instant $189.99 $159.99 Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver Thermal Compound AS5-3.5G - OEM Item #: N82E16835100007 -$4.00 Instant $11.99 $7.99 Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model BLS2KIT8G3D1609DS1S00 Item #: N82E16820148545 $124.99 GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Item #: N82E16813128544 -$30.00 Instant $169.99 $139.99 Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K Intel Core i7-3770K Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770K Item #: N82E16819116501 $329.99 areca ARC-1213-4X PCI-Express 2.0 x8 Low Profile SATA / SAS 4-Port PCIe 2.0 External SAS/SATA RAID Controllers Item #: N82E16816151103 -$30.00 Instant $419.99 $389.99 CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 (CW-9060007-WW) Water Cooler CORSAIR Hydro Series H60 (CW-9060007-WW) Water Cooler Item #: N82E16835181030 Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$7.00 Instant $81.99 $74.99 SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Item #: N82E16820147193 -$10.00 Instant $249.99 $239.99 Subtotal: $2,177.86 Last edited by Panagiotis Raris; March 20th, 2013 at 02:33 PM. |
March 21st, 2013, 03:54 PM | #3 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
Wow!!!!! What excellent advice. Looks like I've got my work cut out. Thanks so much. It should be a beast.
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March 21st, 2013, 04:10 PM | #4 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
Ps the feature is a monster footage wise too. Ill probably need 20-25 tb of storage before backup. Does that complicate the configuration?
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March 22nd, 2013, 10:43 AM | #5 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
let me look into a good NAS solution; 25+ TB is a lot of data, and also a lot to back up. that will increase costs significantly unless you want to burn masters to blu ray or something crazy slow like that.
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March 22nd, 2013, 02:02 PM | #6 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
Also worth looking at eSATA, which could be a raid array if needed.
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March 23rd, 2013, 04:42 AM | #7 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
you can skip on the corsair hydro and the areca card. (sparing 500$)
most Z77 motherboards (like the asus sabertooth) have 6G sata , enough to build a multy terabytes config. you can also upgrade the video card (nvidia 660) to a 660ti that has more CUDA for almost same price. |
March 23rd, 2013, 04:44 AM | #8 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
and you can also skip the 1Tb drives, for same price you can get 2 TB.
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March 24th, 2013, 08:54 PM | #9 |
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Re: Glow worthy computer?
Wow, this is so interesting. Such good feedback! How much things have changed in five short years.
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March 26th, 2013, 01:32 PM | #10 | |
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It is also immensely faster to edit on a mobo/RAID card array on the machine than NAS system with more limited speed; i was not aware her project was so big; i assumed a medium cost build for 3-4TB of data. I agree on the 660Ti however; more cores for same $$$ is always a good thing. same with the HDD's, i put that list together perhaps a bit too quickly. of all the parts, the case i feel is a bit overpriced actually. and i have 2. |
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