Is it possible to edit at 2k and 4k? at DVinfo.net

Miguel Lopez · August 25th, 2005, 09:59 AM

Is it possible to edit at 2k and 4k? I mean, not you just need an ultrapowerfull computer. But how do you see such a big image?

How do people preview the images at an inferno station? Do the have monitors capable of 4k and 6k?

bye!

Jacques Mersereau · August 25th, 2005, 10:40 AM

I have not done this, so I could be very wrong here BUT . . .

There are systems like Discreet's Fire, Inferno and Quantel IQ
can edit and composite a 2K or 4K *Digital Intermediary*.
That means you 'bounce' from film to video via a film telecine.
Many use a less intensive video format like 1080P @24fps/23.97 Timecode
for an offline edit. I believe the higher resolution 2K and 4K DIs are output
back to film as most projectors cannot handle this kind of signal.

From a Google search for "World's highest resolution monitor" :

<The IBM T221 is 22.2" inch wide (16:10) LCD monitor with 9.2 million pixels arranged in stunning 3840x2400 (QUXGA-W) resolution, contrast ratio of 400:1 >

I think this costs about $22,000.00!

Stephen Finton · August 25th, 2005, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacques Mersereau

<The IBM T221 is 22.2" inch wide (16:10) LCD monitor with 9.2 million pixels arranged in stunning 3840x2400 (QUXGA-W) resolution, contrast ratio of 400:1 >

I think this costs about $22,000.00!

400:1 contrast ratio or 4000:1?

Edward Borden · August 25th, 2005, 12:50 PM

Bluefish444's new cards can edit 2K/4K in Premiere. Also, there are a few monitors on the market that have been available for a while that are 9MegaPixel. Viewsonic has a model and it's actually not that expensive. Significantly less than $22K.

Jacques Mersereau · August 25th, 2005, 01:59 PM

I don't think it could be 4000:1. If it were I would dismiss that as bull.

A *real* 400:1 contrast ratio would be great.

Personally, I would not attempt to edit 2K files on Premier
at this time :)

Save your money for Discreet.

Ric Marrty · August 26th, 2005, 04:59 AM

This app edits in those resolutions but you would need a very top end video card like wildcat or the top nvidia ouattro pro.

cinegy extreme at cinegy.com

rm

Giroud Francois · August 26th, 2005, 09:47 AM

the question is why the hell would you need to see all pixels.
a Hidef preview (1280x720 or 1600x1200 for example) should be ok to give you an idea if your are getting good results.
And as you are working on computer, you still can zoom on the picture to check finest details (for keying for example).

Ric Marrty · August 26th, 2005, 10:52 AM

Its the same as when you import a high resolution image into photoshop you just click on zoom to what ever suits you.

ric

August 25th, 2005, 09:59 AM	#1
Miguel Lopez Regular Crew Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 187	Is it possible to edit at 2k and 4k? Is it possible to edit at 2k and 4k? I mean, not you just need an ultrapowerfull computer. But how do you see such a big image? How do people preview the images at an inferno station? Do the have monitors capable of 4k and 6k? bye!

August 25th, 2005, 10:40 AM	#2
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	I have not done this, so I could be very wrong here BUT . . . There are systems like Discreet's Fire, Inferno and Quantel IQ can edit and composite a 2K or 4K Digital Intermediary. That means you 'bounce' from film to video via a film telecine. Many use a less intensive video format like 1080P @24fps/23.97 Timecode for an offline edit. I believe the higher resolution 2K and 4K DIs are output back to film as most projectors cannot handle this kind of signal. From a Google search for "World's highest resolution monitor" : <The IBM T221 is 22.2" inch wide (16:10) LCD monitor with 9.2 million pixels arranged in stunning 3840x2400 (QUXGA-W) resolution, contrast ratio of 400:1 > I think this costs about $22,000.00! __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

August 25th, 2005, 12:50 PM	#4
Edward Borden Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Budd Lake, NJ Posts: 49	Bluefish444's new cards can edit 2K/4K in Premiere. Also, there are a few monitors on the market that have been available for a while that are 9MegaPixel. Viewsonic has a model and it's actually not that expensive. Significantly less than $22K. __________________ Edward Borden President, Tantus Computers Post Production Solution Providers Video Editing/3D Workstation Integrators http://www.tantuscomputers.com 877.826.8871

August 25th, 2005, 01:59 PM	#5
Jacques Mersereau Trustee Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,334	I don't think it could be 4000:1. If it were I would dismiss that as bull. A real 400:1 contrast ratio would be great. Personally, I would not attempt to edit 2K files on Premier at this time :) Save your money for Discreet. __________________ Jacques Mersereau University of Michigan-Video Studio Manager

August 26th, 2005, 04:59 AM	#6
Ric Marrty Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tenerife Spain Posts: 71	editing 2k-4k This app edits in those resolutions but you would need a very top end video card like wildcat or the top nvidia ouattro pro. cinegy extreme at cinegy.com rm

August 26th, 2005, 09:47 AM	#7
Giroud Francois Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: switzerland Posts: 2,133	the question is why the hell would you need to see all pixels. a Hidef preview (1280x720 or 1600x1200 for example) should be ok to give you an idea if your are getting good results. And as you are working on computer, you still can zoom on the picture to check finest details (for keying for example).

August 26th, 2005, 10:52 AM	#8
Ric Marrty Regular Crew Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tenerife Spain Posts: 71	2k - 4k Its the same as when you import a high resolution image into photoshop you just click on zoom to what ever suits you. ric