The market for simple NLE at DVinfo.net

Brendan Marnell · December 7th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Found PPro 1.5 clumsy & tedious years ago and got PElements 7.0 which I find inadequate (I never found a good tutorial for either and I hate trawling through chapters of sophistications to find that the basics are left out).

All I want is a reasonably fast & reliable programme for ....

1. basic colour correction of clips
2. effects transform of still images e.g. zooming in/out of photos
3. basic audio editing

Please recommend a suitable unsophisticated programme?

Perrone Ford · December 7th, 2009, 03:06 PM

Sony Vegas Platinum. Lot's of folks swear by it.

Don Bloom · December 7th, 2009, 03:26 PM

I agree with Perrone. Vegas Platinum is miles ahead of Movie Maker and imovie. It does have some limitations but for the money (about 50 or 60 dollars I think) you'd be hard pressed to find something as powerful and easy to use.

Gary Bettan · December 7th, 2009, 04:11 PM

And for something more robust and powerful check out Edius Neo2. The new Booster version handles AVCHD footage in real time!!

Videoguys Blog - EDIUS Neo 2 Booster Realtime AVCHD Editing Solution, Blu-ray Disc Authoring... and more!

Gary

Stelios Christofides · December 8th, 2009, 01:56 PM

Brendan
You might also try Corel VideoSudio Pro x2
http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satelli...1#tabview=tab0

Stelios

Robert M Wright · December 9th, 2009, 12:26 PM

I downloaded that Edius Neo 2 booster thingy, and gave it a quick try. It seems to handle AVCHD much better now. I loaded a short 720p60 AVCHD clip (which is roughly just as taxing on the CPU as 1080i60 or 1080p30 AVCHD) and it played back silky smooth from the timeline, with CPU utilization hovering between 30%-40% on an AMD Phenom X4 9850 (lower end quad core CPU). Very nice improvement.

Stelios Christofides · December 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Robert

Please let me have the link where you downloaded Edius Neo 2. I just want to try it and see. Is there also a site where I can download raw AVCHD video file?

Stelios

Robert M Wright · December 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM

EDIUS Neo 2 | Grass Valley

I'm sure you can find raw AVCHD files somewhere on the net.

Brendan Marnell · December 10th, 2009, 05:41 AM

I may have to go through this once a year (or more often) to rediscover that I already discovered the answer 2 years ago to my questions above.

The answer, for me, is ...

1. Adobe After Effects (bought Jan.'08)
2. After Effects Apprentice, Lesson 1 - Basic Animation
written carefully by Trish Meyer & Chris Meyer

Bless them all.

Sorry to bother you unnecessarily and thank you for your tolerance and your suggestions.

Fred Phillips · May 20th, 2010, 07:20 PM

Can aybody comment on experience with Corel Video Studio PRO X3

Ken Hodson · May 20th, 2010, 10:00 PM

Ya, I would like to chime in. Personally looking for much the same as the OP. Something fast, solid, and easy. For basic stuff, not elaborate time-lines or effects. I almost think there should be a freeware something, but i have yet to have any one recommend anything.
So whats the kick-ass quick NLE?

Chris Soucy · May 21st, 2010, 12:30 AM

always give Uleads VideoStudio a run through.

It's as simple as you want it to be and any dummy can get it to work (heck, I should know).

It ain't fancy, but it sure is cheap, and I haven't managed to break it yet, which is a damn site more than I can say for Premier Elements, which I loath beyond all reason.

CS

Perrone Ford · May 21st, 2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Hodson

Ya, I would like to chime in. Personally looking for much the same as the OP. Something fast, solid, and easy. For basic stuff, not elaborate time-lines or effects. I almost think there should be a freeware something, but i have yet to have any one recommend anything.
So whats the kick-ass quick NLE?

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Ken Hodson · May 22nd, 2010, 01:12 AM

Great link Mr. Ford. I would like to add another that came about as a result of exploring yours.
http://download.cnet.com/windows/vid...g=ltcol;narrow

C-net downloads, Video Editing. The left of the page has a narrowing list. Price or OS. I chose free and started working my way through the extensive list. I'm not sure if the "free" Swiss army knife of NLE's exist, but there are plenty single focus apps that one could compile to make a very useful suite of tools. I recommend everyone take a peak.

Alonzo Love · May 22nd, 2010, 03:11 AM

You may want to look at SpeedEdit 2.0 by Newtek.

December 7th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#1
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	The market for simple NLE Found PPro 1.5 clumsy & tedious years ago and got PElements 7.0 which I find inadequate (I never found a good tutorial for either and I hate trawling through chapters of sophistications to find that the basics are left out). All I want is a reasonably fast & reliable programme for .... 1. basic colour correction of clips 2. effects transform of still images e.g. zooming in/out of photos 3. basic audio editing Please recommend a suitable unsophisticated programme?

December 7th, 2009, 03:06 PM	#2
Perrone Ford Inner Circle Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 4,100	Sony Vegas Platinum. Lot's of folks swear by it. __________________ DVX100, PMW-EX1, Canon 550D, FigRig, Dell Octocore, Avid MC4/5, MB Looks, RedCineX, Matrox MX02 mini, GTech RAID, Edirol R-4, Senn. G2 Evo, Countryman, Moles and Lowels.

December 7th, 2009, 03:26 PM	#3
Don Bloom Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 6,609	I agree with Perrone. Vegas Platinum is miles ahead of Movie Maker and imovie. It does have some limitations but for the money (about 50 or 60 dollars I think) you'd be hard pressed to find something as powerful and easy to use. __________________ What do I know? I'm just a video-O-grafer. Don

December 7th, 2009, 04:11 PM	#4
Gary Bettan Sponsor: Electronic Mailbox Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Glen Cove, NY Posts: 758	And for something more robust and powerful check out Edius Neo2. The new Booster version handles AVCHD footage in real time!! Videoguys Blog - EDIUS Neo 2 Booster Realtime AVCHD Editing Solution, Blu-ray Disc Authoring... and more! Gary __________________ Check out http://www.videoguys.com 800 323-2325 We are the video editing and live video production experts! DV InfoNet members save 5%! Use Coupon Code DVINFO5OFF

December 8th, 2009, 01:56 PM	#5
Stelios Christofides Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nicosia, CYPRUS Posts: 1,080	Brendan You might also try Corel VideoSudio Pro x2 http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satelli...1#tabview=tab0 Stelios __________________ My Blog: http://steliosc.blogspot.com "I hope for nothing, I fear nothing, I am free" Nikos Kazantzakis

December 9th, 2009, 12:26 PM	#6
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	I downloaded that Edius Neo 2 booster thingy, and gave it a quick try. It seems to handle AVCHD much better now. I loaded a short 720p60 AVCHD clip (which is roughly just as taxing on the CPU as 1080i60 or 1080p30 AVCHD) and it played back silky smooth from the timeline, with CPU utilization hovering between 30%-40% on an AMD Phenom X4 9850 (lower end quad core CPU). Very nice improvement.

December 9th, 2009, 01:02 PM	#7
Stelios Christofides Trustee Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Nicosia, CYPRUS Posts: 1,080	Robert Please let me have the link where you downloaded Edius Neo 2. I just want to try it and see. Is there also a site where I can download raw AVCHD video file? Stelios __________________ My Blog: http://steliosc.blogspot.com "I hope for nothing, I fear nothing, I am free" Nikos Kazantzakis

December 9th, 2009, 01:20 PM	#8
Robert M Wright Inner Circle Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Minnesota (USA) Posts: 2,171	EDIUS Neo 2 \| Grass Valley I'm sure you can find raw AVCHD files somewhere on the net.

December 10th, 2009, 05:41 AM	#9
Brendan Marnell Major Player Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 938	Scary for me, you're OK I may have to go through this once a year (or more often) to rediscover that I already discovered the answer 2 years ago to my questions above. The answer, for me, is ... 1. Adobe After Effects (bought Jan.'08) 2. After Effects Apprentice, Lesson 1 - Basic Animation written carefully by Trish Meyer & Chris Meyer Bless them all. Sorry to bother you unnecessarily and thank you for your tolerance and your suggestions.

May 20th, 2010, 07:20 PM	#10
Fred Phillips New Boot Join Date: May 2008 Location: Thornhill, Ontario Posts: 19	Can aybody comment on experience with Corel Video Studio PRO X3

May 20th, 2010, 10:00 PM	#11
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	Ya, I would like to chime in. Personally looking for much the same as the OP. Something fast, solid, and easy. For basic stuff, not elaborate time-lines or effects. I almost think there should be a freeware something, but i have yet to have any one recommend anything. So whats the kick-ass quick NLE? __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

May 21st, 2010, 12:30 AM	#12
Chris Soucy Inner Circle Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield, Dunedin, New Zealand Posts: 3,688 Images: 18	Well, you could............ always give Uleads VideoStudio a run through. It's as simple as you want it to be and any dummy can get it to work (heck, I should know). It ain't fancy, but it sure is cheap, and I haven't managed to break it yet, which is a damn site more than I can say for Premier Elements, which I loath beyond all reason. CS

May 22nd, 2010, 01:12 AM	#14
Ken Hodson Trustee Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Posts: 1,315	Great link Mr. Ford. I would like to add another that came about as a result of exploring yours. http://download.cnet.com/windows/vid...g=ltcol;narrow C-net downloads, Video Editing. The left of the page has a narrowing list. Price or OS. I chose free and started working my way through the extensive list. I'm not sure if the "free" Swiss army knife of NLE's exist, but there are plenty single focus apps that one could compile to make a very useful suite of tools. I recommend everyone take a peak. __________________ Damnit Jim, I'm a film maker not a sysytems tech.

May 22nd, 2010, 03:11 AM	#15
Alonzo Love New Boot Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Silver Spring,MD Posts: 9	Simple nle You may want to look at SpeedEdit 2.0 by Newtek.