DV Filmmaker - Can you make 60i to 24p into 2:3:3:2 at DVinfo.net

James A. Davis · March 28th, 2005, 04:52 PM

Is it possible. I only have the demo but can you make the 24P you produce out of 60i into 2:3:3:2? Also every time I have DV Filmmaker up and running and I go to open a file in it it closes. It just started doing that after I upgraded my Quicktime to the latest version.

Graeme Nattress · March 28th, 2005, 06:47 PM

2:3:3:2 is advanced pulldown pattern, which is designed to be removed by the NLE by looking at some metadata in the DV stream to see which fields to remove. I don't see why you'd want to create video that way. Surely going straight to 24p would be best, as any advanced pulldown material would have had it's pulldown removed and be edited on a 24p timeline? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick??

Graeme

John McManimie · March 29th, 2005, 11:44 AM

It is, in fact, one of the post-edit processing options with DVFilm Maker:

"Convert 24P/23.976P to NTSC 2:3:3:2 pulldown.

Converts a 24 or 23.976 frames/sec DV (720 x 480) Quicktime to an NTSC DV-AVI or Quicktime which can be recorded out to Firewire using Premiere, FCP, or your video card software. The 2:3:3:2 pulldown is not as smooth, but this the best way to archive a 24P final cut if you have to bring it back in later for more editing."

To view the full list of 24P options, go to:

http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/24P.htm

John

James A. Davis · March 29th, 2005, 12:18 PM

I'm sending my project out to film. I have no need to convert it to Quicktime. It's already edited. Besides why is it Quicktime doesnt look as good as AVI? Are my settings wrong. Beside that whenever I have quicktime open and I go to open a file, I get an error message and the whole program closes. Is that a glitch in the software?

P.S.

I'm using the latest version of QT.

John McManimie · March 29th, 2005, 12:48 PM

They recommend Quicktime version 6.5.2 on the website (http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm). I haven't tried later versions.

If you are going to film, who is doing the transfer for you? They would be the best people to tell you how they want the product delivered for transfer.

Quicktime is just a wrapper (like AVI); you should use a good codec --- and the less compression you use the better it will look.

John

March 28th, 2005, 04:52 PM	#1
James A. Davis Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 90	DV Filmmaker - Can you make 60i to 24p into 2:3:3:2 Is it possible. I only have the demo but can you make the 24P you produce out of 60i into 2:3:3:2? Also every time I have DV Filmmaker up and running and I go to open a file in it it closes. It just started doing that after I upgraded my Quicktime to the latest version.

March 28th, 2005, 06:47 PM	#2
Graeme Nattress RED Problem Solver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,365	2:3:3:2 is advanced pulldown pattern, which is designed to be removed by the NLE by looking at some metadata in the DV stream to see which fields to remove. I don't see why you'd want to create video that way. Surely going straight to 24p would be best, as any advanced pulldown material would have had it's pulldown removed and be edited on a 24p timeline? Or am I getting the wrong end of the stick?? Graeme __________________ www.nattress.com - filters for FCP

March 29th, 2005, 12:18 PM	#4
James A. Davis Regular Crew Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 90	Should I even? I'm sending my project out to film. I have no need to convert it to Quicktime. It's already edited. Besides why is it Quicktime doesnt look as good as AVI? Are my settings wrong. Beside that whenever I have quicktime open and I go to open a file, I get an error message and the whole program closes. Is that a glitch in the software? P.S. I'm using the latest version of QT.

March 29th, 2005, 11:44 AM	#3
John McManimie Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 314	It is, in fact, one of the post-edit processing options with DVFilm Maker: "Convert 24P/23.976P to NTSC 2:3:3:2 pulldown. Converts a 24 or 23.976 frames/sec DV (720 x 480) Quicktime to an NTSC DV-AVI or Quicktime which can be recorded out to Firewire using Premiere, FCP, or your video card software. The 2:3:3:2 pulldown is not as smooth, but this the best way to archive a 24P final cut if you have to bring it back in later for more editing." To view the full list of 24P options, go to: http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/24P.htm John

March 29th, 2005, 12:48 PM	#5
John McManimie Major Player Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 314	They recommend Quicktime version 6.5.2 on the website (http://www.dvfilm.com/maker/index.htm). I haven't tried later versions. If you are going to film, who is doing the transfer for you? They would be the best people to tell you how they want the product delivered for transfer. Quicktime is just a wrapper (like AVI); you should use a good codec --- and the less compression you use the better it will look. John