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wiredryoko · October 7th, 2002, 11:30 AM

What I want to do is drive down a street with my camera propped out of the window, filming everything as I go by. Later, I'll insert a bullet (we've already made it, in Maya, with smoke around it). The effect I want to achieve, ultimately, is to have the bullet flying down the street. I want to slow down the video of the street so that the people are moving in slow-mo, however, this will also slow my pan, and I want the camera to be moving fast. So, I was thinking, I could slow down the video, and then stretch out the image like a panoramic photograph, and pan down IT as the video plays. The problem is, I don't know how to do this. If I just pan normally in Premiere, the image will just kind of fly by, and there will be white space behind it. How do I stetch it out so that it plays fluidly, without any whitespace behind it?

(I know this is going to be complicated)

-Ryoko

fargogogo · October 8th, 2002, 06:43 AM

I think if you stretch the video the people will appear wider than normal.

And if you pan too fast, each frame will be slightly blurred.

Could you "fake" it by having the people (actors?) on the street actually moving in slo-motion?

Sounds like a cool effect, with the bullet up close in focus, and the people it's zipping by slightly out of focus.

Good luck!

wiredryoko · October 8th, 2002, 11:28 AM

I can't really fake the slo-mo...it's a public street. I don't really want to "stretch" the video...but I want to make a really long (panoramic) clip...

Rob Lohman · October 9th, 2002, 07:34 AM

My brain is hurting coming up with an answer... What you are
basically asking is two different camera speeds:

1. fast one, main camera that follows the bullet
2. slow one, with the moving people

I think this would require two pass shooting with a motion
controlled rig, blue/green screening actors or using digital
actors.... I just can't come up with any other way to pull such
a thing off without introducing major distortions that will look
very bad... I might be wrong ofcourse.

wiredryoko · October 9th, 2002, 03:37 PM

I think I've come to the conclusion that this just isn't possible, given the resources I have and the time I've got to do this in. We've changed the shot a little...we might have to blur it....we'll see. Thanks for all your help!

October 7th, 2002, 11:30 AM	#1
wiredryoko New Boot Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ca Posts: 18	I'm having trouble articulating this... What I want to do is drive down a street with my camera propped out of the window, filming everything as I go by. Later, I'll insert a bullet (we've already made it, in Maya, with smoke around it). The effect I want to achieve, ultimately, is to have the bullet flying down the street. I want to slow down the video of the street so that the people are moving in slow-mo, however, this will also slow my pan, and I want the camera to be moving fast. So, I was thinking, I could slow down the video, and then stretch out the image like a panoramic photograph, and pan down IT as the video plays. The problem is, I don't know how to do this. If I just pan normally in Premiere, the image will just kind of fly by, and there will be white space behind it. How do I stetch it out so that it plays fluidly, without any whitespace behind it? (I know this is going to be complicated) -Ryoko

October 9th, 2002, 07:34 AM	#4
Rob Lohman RED Code Chef Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Holland Posts: 12,514	My brain is hurting coming up with an answer... What you are basically asking is two different camera speeds: 1. fast one, main camera that follows the bullet 2. slow one, with the moving people I think this would require two pass shooting with a motion controlled rig, blue/green screening actors or using digital actors.... I just can't come up with any other way to pull such a thing off without introducing major distortions that will look very bad... I might be wrong ofcourse. __________________ Rob Lohman, visuar@iname.com DV Info Wrangler & RED Code Chef Join the DV Challenge \| Lady X Search DVinfo.net for quick answers \| Buy from the best: DVinfo.net sponsors

October 8th, 2002, 06:43 AM	#2
fargogogo Regular Crew Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 49	I think if you stretch the video the people will appear wider than normal. And if you pan too fast, each frame will be slightly blurred. Could you "fake" it by having the people (actors?) on the street actually moving in slo-motion? Sounds like a cool effect, with the bullet up close in focus, and the people it's zipping by slightly out of focus. Good luck!

October 8th, 2002, 11:28 AM	#3
wiredryoko New Boot Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ca Posts: 18	I can't really fake the slo-mo...it's a public street. I don't really want to "stretch" the video...but I want to make a really long (panoramic) clip...

October 9th, 2002, 03:37 PM	#5
wiredryoko New Boot Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ca Posts: 18	I think I've come to the conclusion that this just isn't possible, given the resources I have and the time I've got to do this in. We've changed the shot a little...we might have to blur it....we'll see. Thanks for all your help!